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Old 11-08-2005, 04:46 AM
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Στο Τοροντο υπαρχει 2.2 με κομπρεσορα στα 296 στους τροχους. Comptech bolt on kit, ιδια αξιοπιστια με στοκ.

το κιτ που μπηκε ειναι αυτο

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Old 11-08-2005, 05:08 AM
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File Agis Ypertrofodotoumeno Moter S2K me idia aksipoistia me to atmosfairiko S2K apla den yparxei, ektos kai an exeis idi ksodepsei ta xrimata 2 moter gia na allakseis entosthia ston kinitira so WHAT's THE POINT ANYWAY!?? Besides, to moter 2,2 (call me FC22) einai pio xamilostrofo kai me xamiloteri sympiesi ara pio kalos candidate gia ypertrofodotisi. To F20C me 8800 reving ability kai approx 11,5 compression rate den einai oyte oti pio efkolo, oute oti pio aksiopisto. IMHO of course
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filaraki mhn akous kanena sou exo thn lisi pou exo efarmosei kai sou egiomai oti tha katapieis akoma kai m5 m6 mporei kai kai ferrari.....ase pou kostizei mono 20 euro......PARE ENAN FARO!!!!!
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Originally Posted by VAG' date='Nov 8 2005, 06:08 AM
File Agis Ypertrofodotoumeno Moter S2K me idia aksipoistia me to atmosfairiko S2K apla den yparxei, ektos kai an exeis idi ksodepsei ta xrimata 2 moter gia na allakseis entosthia ston kinitira so WHAT's THE POINT ANYWAY!?? Besides, to moter 2,2 (call me FC22) einai pio xamilostrofo kai me xamiloteri sympiesi ara pio kalos candidate gia ypertrofodotisi. To F20C me 8800 reving ability kai approx 11,5 compression rate den einai oyte oti pio efkolo, oute oti pio aksiopisto. IMHO of course
Εχω την εντυπωση οτι το 2.2 εχει ελαφρα υψηλοτερη συμπιεση.

Το συγκεκριμενο αυτοκινητο ειναι αυτο της φωτογραφιας στο λινκ που εβαλα και ο τυπος το εχει για 1+ χρονο τωρα χωρις ουσιαστικα προβληματα (νομιζω αλλαξε 02 σενσορ μεσα στην εγγυηση!!). Εννοειται οτι με τετοια ισχυ τρωει πιο ευκολα συμπλεκτη και διαφορικο αν δεν προσεξεις.

Τα χρηματα που ξοδεψε ηταν γυρω στα $5 χιλ.
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Siga re paidia me fagate, de prolavainv na diavazw apanthseis!!

Etsi opws ta lete loipon, me vlepw me vlepw na mhn rixnw draxmh gia atmosfaira, wste na mazepsw tipota na to toyrmpisw se kana xrono.H kai ligotero, exartatai.
Na to poylhsw pantws apokleietai dioti moy aresei poly ayto to aytokinhto!

Xtes de prolava na rthw, tha erthw next time an mporesw!

File drsouli23 kalo ayto me to faro, alla de kanei mia.Exw valei kai pali me pernane!
File tsapa synexizeis kai me plhgwneis me ayta poy mou les, alla mallon tha se plhgwsw egw mia kai kalh!!!!!!
File vag ti ennoeis oti kanw lathos sygriseis? An les gia ta MX5 den katalavainw ti lathos kanw! Roadster to ena roadster kai to allo, den exei shmasia an einai peiragmeno, exalloy to ena exei 110 aloga apo mama kai to allo (to S mou) ta yperdiplasia! Ta miata ayta pou ta xereis? Ontws ena mayro htane kai ena mple skouro de xerw Mk1,2 klp pou les omws mou rixane pooooly xylo! Toso, pou pragmatika isws kai na exei dikio o filos tsapas mou amfivalei an mporw na exw tetoies epidoseis, veltiwnwntas atmosfairika to S mou.

Y.G. Gia nitra na mh to skeftomai kan, etsi?
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O VAG exei miata giauto ta kserei.
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Moy epitrepete na pw ki egw thn gnvmh moy? Loipon, gia na xekinhsw apo thn arxh kai lambanvntas yp' opsi oles tis dynates epiloges opws poly analytika periegrapse o Socrates tha elega kat' arxas symfvnvntas me ton filo moy ton VAG oti to S2000 exei ftiaxthei oxi gia na kanei ekinhseis apo stash kai na tromazei me tis epidoseis tou alla na prosferei ston odhgo toy oles ekeines tis aisthiseis poy enas pragmatikos odhgos tha epithymoyse apo ena tetoio aytokinhto. Aisthish eleytherias logv roadster, aisthish poiothtas kataskeys (oso ayto toylaxiston to epitrepei ena aytokinhto cabrio), alla to kyriotero prosferei adrenalinh logw odikhs symperiforas (ki ayto o kalyteros tropos gia na to diapistwseis einai se pista) poy synistatai ston tropo poy mporei kai plassaretai kai mpainei stis strofes, ston thorybo poy paragetai apo tis 8.800 pragmatikes strofes sto orio, kai fysika ston entypwsiako tropo poy bgazei thn dynamh apo to V-tec point kai mexri ton kofth. Einai ena katharoaimo pistato roadster kai ayto akribvs eixan oi Iapwnes sxediastes toy sto myalo toys otan to sxediazan. Kai gia toy logoy to alithes mporeis na rvthseis se kapoia mas synanthsh tis entypwseis merikwn apo osoys to exoyn balei sthn pista sta Megara. Rwthse toys gia thn aisthish meta apo mia grhgorh bolta alla kai gia toys xronoys poy ekanan.
Mhn perimeneis omws oti tha skizeis kosmo sta fanaria me ta 240 aloga kai ta 1250 kila toy aytokinhtoy. Kineisai men poly grhgora den kineisai omvs opws ena turbato ki elafrytero aytokinhto opws einai merika apo ta MX5 poy aneferes. Prin proxvrhsw tha soy proteina na apanthseis sthn exhs erwthsh... Protimas ena turbismeno elafry aytokinhto poy xyrizei se mia aplh kontra oti kineitai gyrv toy kai meta perimenei kana tetarto mexri na krywsei h turbina h ena S2000 me ta proterhmata poy proanefera? An protimas to prwto tote isws ki ena kala ftiagmeno UNO turbo na htan h kalyterh epilogh gia sena.
An par' ola ayta theleis na to beltivseis tha soy proteina na xexaseis to turbo kai toys compressores (wraia ellhnika e?) kai na proxvrhseis se atmosfairikh beltiwsh. Ki ayto giati mia lysh me xrhsh turbo h compressor pera toy oti xalaei ek themeliwn ton xarakthra toy aytokinhtoy -thymisoy oti einai to monadiko aytokinhto ston kosmo poy bgazei 120 atmosfairika aloga sto litro - rixnei poly xamhla ton bathmo axiopistias toy moter kai fysika ton xrono zvhs toy. Ki ayto giati poly apla h sxesh sympieshs poy doyleyei to aytokinhto den dinei polla perithwria sto moter gia n' antexei thn piesh enos turbo kit - oso kai xamhlh na einai h piesh yperplhrvshs- m' apotelesma to moter se ligo kairo na paradidei to pneyma. Plhroforiaka soy lew oti mexri twra exoyn spasei arketa moter me compressor se diasthma apo ligoys mhnes mexri kai kati parapanw apo xrono. Opote mallon h epilogh toy turbo an kai soy prosferei aploxera aloga se sxesh me mia atmosfairikh beltiwsh kai malista me arketa ligotera xrhmata mallon kata ta fainomena apodyknyetai anaxiopisth ki epikindynh. Gia to Nitro oyte na to skeftesai. Ektos ki an eisai diatethimenos na pareis se 5-6 mhnes kainoyrio moter. Exaloy eimai ths gnvmhs oti an kapoios einai opados toy turbo den yparxei kanenas logos na parei ena S2000. As parei ena EVO h ena Sti kai me ta idia xrhmata poy dinei gia na turbisei to S pairnei poly perissotera aloga kai me safws kalyterh axiopistia.
Opote an akoma epimeneis na to beltiwseis soy menei mallon mono h lysh ths atmosfairas. Ki epeidh hdh to moter einai tabani apo 'mama' gia na pareis pragmatika dynamh kai na deis diafora poy tha einai aisthith ston dromo se sxesh me ta alla S2000 alla kai me aytokinhta poy twra ta blepeis me to kyali tha prepei na exantlhseis oti afora to prvto stadio beltiwshs kai sthn synexeia na mpeis kai mesa sto moter.
ekei ontws tha deis diafores megales alla kai ta xrhmata poy tha dwseis den einai katholoy eykatafronhta. Se liges hmeres pairnw to diko moy apo to synergeio opoy tha exei oloklhrvthei sto 100% kai to deytero stadio beltiwshs ki afoy to strwsw tha mporoysa na se paw mia bolta gia na deis pragmatika ti kanei to aytokinhto ston dromo. Gia na pareis mia idea pisteyw oti oi M3 E46 den tha exoyn kamia tyxh pleon ston dromo.
kai panta milame gia atmosfaira.
Gia na ginv twra ligo pio analytikos oson afora ta pragmata poy perilambanei to 1o kai 2o stadio beltiwshs tha paretheta ton akoloytho katalogo proiontwn

1oSTADIO

a) EISAGWGH
1a) Carbon skoypa prosagwghs aera.
2a) filtro aera
3a) petaloyda megalyterh
4a) Flantza eisagwghs
b) EXAGWGH
1b) xtapodi
2b) exatmish (kata protimhsh D-cat)
c) METADOSH
1c) Disko (enisxymeno organiko h metalliko)
2c) Plato (poy synodeyei aparaithta ton disko poy tha epilexeis)
3c) royleman (einai ki ayta meros toy oloy set)
4c) Elafrvmeno bolan (Gia kalytero strofarisma)
5c) Koronopinio (Proteinw kapoio epwnymo opws ths "J'S" ki oxi oti
tairiazei apo alla "vanakia" ki aytokinhta paragvghs gia logoys poy
mporw na soy exhghsw allh stigmh)
e) PSYXH
Para poly shmantikh se kathe aytokinhto alla poly perissotero sto
S2000 poy exei ena aneparkestato psygeio gia tis thermokrasies poy
anaptysei o kinhthras. H psyxh loipon einai to prwto pragma poy
proswpika tha beltiwna sto S2000 giati poly apla ap' oti
ekana ws prwto stadio beltiwshs apo thn psyxh eida thn megalyterh
diafora! oso ki an sas fainetai periergo (O logos einai oti o egefalos
otan katalabainei megalh thermokrasia sto moter rixnei to avance
prokeimenoy na prostatepsei ton kinhthra m' apotelesma na xaneis
akoma kai 15-20 aloga!!! kati poy den symbainei otan to moter
psyxetai eparkws kai to avance diathreitai apo to egefalo se pshles
moires).
Exoyme kai leme loipon gia thn psyxh
1e) Megalytero psygeio neroy
2e) Psygeio Ladioy (Proairetiko..Kalo tha toy kanei)
3e) Thermostath poy anoigei se xamhloterh thermokrasia
4e) Baldida Vendilater

EGEFALO
Mporeis na baleis enan egefalo ths "Spoon" h ths "Mugen"
o opoios erxetai rythmismenos kai topotheteitai ap' eytheias
xemprizvnontas ton palio kai mprizvnontas ton kainoyrio.

KOSTOS 1ou STADIOY: Peripoy 10.000 Euro.


2o STADIO

To deytero stadio perilambanei oti afora sto moter.
Exoyme kai leme:

1) Ekkentroforoi 1oy h 2oy stadioy (Protimhse opws leei ki o Socrates
toy 1oy giati oso proxvras stadia toso pio agvnistiko to kaneis kai
syskoloodhghto mesa sthn polh)
2) Flantza kaysews
3) Stroker Kit 2,2lit h allo me perissotera cc. (Perilambanei embola,
mpieles kai strofaloforo)
4) Balbides epinitrwmenes gia megalyterh antoxh sthn thermokrasikh
kataponhsh.
5) Elathria balbidwn (Den leei na karfwsei kamia balbida)
6) Kapelwta titanioy (Gia na koimasai hsyxos)
7) EGEFALOS
Oi prohgoymenoi egefaloi poy anefera (Spoon, Mugen) otan allazeis
kybismo den doyleyoyn pleon kai tha prepei na katafygeis sthn
epilogh enos agrafoy egefaloy. H kalyterh epilogh kata thn gnvmh
moy einai aytou ths "HKS" me typo "FCON V-PRO". Ola ta agwnistika
S2000 sthn Iapwnia forane ayton ton egefalo.
Isws ki o "mama" egefalos se kapoia kit na kanei alla einai sigoyro oti
den einai se thesh na ekmetaleytei sto epakro tis dynatothtes toy
stroker kit kai tha xaseis poly apo thn polypothith dynamh poy enas
"full programming" egefalos tha mporoyse na soy dwsei.

KOSTOS 2oy STADIOY: Alla 10.000 Euro (Dystyxvs...snif, snif...)

An twra prostheseis ki oti gia na stamataei kai na stribei to aytokinhto beltiwnontas to s' ena tetoio bathmo tha prepei na baleis ki ena kalo set anarthseis (P.x. "Tein" h "KW" me kostos peripou 2.000 Euro) ki ena set Frena (toylaxiston mprosta) me tetrapistones daganes kai tryphtoys h xaraktoys diploys aerizomenoys diskoys (Kostos alla 3.000 Euro) tote katalhgoyme oti mallon soy ekana thn kardia periboli para se boithisa m' ola ayta poy soy egrapsa.
H apofash par'ola ayta einai dikh soy.
Soy eyxomai loipon mia kalh kai poly ma poly prosextikh epilogh.
Ante kai mas phre to xhmerwma me toyta kai me keina...
H synexeia sto epomeno epeisodio....
Elpizv na exw parei to aytokinhto kai na einai sto meeting point ayths ths Deyteras...
See you...





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πόσους ιππους εκτιμας οτι θα εχει το αυτοκινητο σου;

οι τιμες που γραφεις ειναι μαλλον υπερβολικες...πιστευω οτι γινεται με τα μισα αν πχ αγορασεις ανταλλακτικα απο Αμερικη η κατευθειαν απο Ιαπωνια.

π.χ. εχω την εντυπωση οτι 4πιστονες Σπουν δαγκανες ειναι κατω απο 1500 ευρα κοστος, ασε που καποιος τις πουλαγε σχεδον αχρησιμοποιητες για 1100 ευρα.

επισης ενας τροπος να ριξεις το κοστος ειναι να παρεις ελαφρως μεταχειρισμενα ανταλλακτικα.
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O DS me kalypse apolyta Kai dystyxws opws exw mathei o monos tropos na ektimiseis swsta to kostos mias metatropis einai na ypovlitheis se afto. PANTA einai ypsilotero apo oti exeis proypologisei. Kai to simantikotero apaitei periodo prosarmogis, arketes episkeceiw se synergeio kai ypsila apothemata psyhikis antoxiw (gia ta xrimatika apothemata to ethixa parapanw). Ara loipon ti exoume?

Perneis ena aftokinito pou sou kostizei 30 xiliades E (TOYLAXISTON) kai einai tumbano (120hp/liter einia koryfaio afou gia na epiteyxthei afksisi ippodynamis apaiteitai afksisi strofwn peristrofiw kai/i yperkivismos!!) mama kai aksiopisto kai dapanas alles 25 me 30 xiliades E (balte ergatika, ladia, xydia kai 1002 extra pou apaitei kathe metatropi) syn wres dokimwn, agwnias klp gia na pareis kati pou pernaei aftokinita pou pleon kostizoun ligotero na ta apoktiseis apo oti dapanises!!! An to kaneis giati a)den mporeis na ziseis xwris S kai b) exeis to mikrovio tis metatropis paw paso! Se kathe alli periptwsi nomizw exeiw epileksei lathos vasi. Min trefete aftapates gia ftines kai aksiopistes lyseis se ena toso teza moter! Apla den yparxoun! Min elpizete episis oti i ypertrofodotisi einai panakeia! Exw dei aftokinita me poly xamiloteres epidoseis, sympiesis kai pieseis yperplirwsis na spane apla logw stigmiaias astoxias migmatos venzinis !!! Pistepste me den thelete na sas spasei to moter!! Oute vevaia thelete na mathete tous kwdikous allwn perifereiakwn exartimatwn tis HONDA afoy diskoi, hmiaxonia, endexomenos kivwtia klp then antexoun tetoio ksylo diarkws.

Pou thelw na kataliksw? Oi monta thelei prosoxi, vathia tsepi kai oloklirwmenes lyseis (rwtiste ton NPart einai isws o pio katallilos na sas systisei mia oloklirwmeni lysi ) gia kapoio skopo. Ean o skopos sas einai na patate ta turbismena MIATA nomizw oti pirate lathos amaksi!! Ean o skopos sas einai na dynamwsete/veltiwsete to aftokinito sas se kapoia simeia pou thewreite oti ysterei tote go ahead and have a nice journey!! For it will be a long journey indeed!!
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