Feezy's Build Thread - 2002 New Formula Red
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Toda Individual Throttle Bodies
A couple years back I sold the Hayward ITBs with the intention of moving onto a new set up. The Haywards were my first attempt at putting together a set of ITBs for the S2000 and after I had completed the car I wanted to see how other set ups would compare. I had been debating between the Urge set up (AT Power to their Specs) or the Todas. Both kits have their pros and cons and like pretty much every decision I make for these cars I got stuck into over analyzing it and eventually lost interest.
You can find a link to the original Hayward thread here: https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-na...hread-1074062/
After a lot of back and forth I finally settled on the Toda Sports Injection kit. I figured if their kits are good enough for pretty much all of the JDM racing houses then they are good enough for me. The Toda set up has the additional benefit of having an optional surge tank (air box). Not only would this let me funnel air straight to the throttles, it also looks fantastic in the engine bay, and helps cleaning everything up for an OEM'ish look. It also presents a series of problems which I'll get into later.
The other option that really sold me on the Todas was the additional ISCV piece. Basically it's a tube shaped vacuum block that has an idle air control valve off of some Toyota incorporated into it. The Toda manifold is set up with multiple vacuum sources, so you can have a dedicated line and block for things like the FPR, MAP, Brake Booster, and then you can have a completely separate system for the IACV. That way you don't lost vacuum when you're at idle and the IACV opens up.
At the beginning of 2016 I had placed an order for the Toda 50mm Sports Injection kit, the Toda Dry Carbon Surge Tank, and the Toda ISCV. Unfortunately a few days after I was informed than the surge tank and ISCV were both on indefinite back order and it didn't sound like they had any ETA on when they would be restocking. I was going with the Todas because of the two optional pieces that I couldn't get at the time, so I canceled the order.
At the end of 2016 I had a large chunk of time off of work and I decided to start making some progress on putting the Ap1 back together. I had talked with a guy I found on Instagram about purchasing his set of Todas that he picked up and never used, but the price and condition just didn't make sense for me to pull the trigger. They looked good, and they came with some extras, but they had changed hands a few times by people who had never installed them and I couldn't be confident that they still had all the pieces. I'll also say that if you're trying to sell rare parts for a large premium you can do your self a favor by taking more than two pictures of everything thrown into a box, and reply with more than "everything in the picture is included" when asked for a detailed breakdown of what's actually included and pictures of the condition. At this point I decided I wasn't going to buy used and inquired again about the Todas. To my surprise I heard back almost immediately that they had just restocked and a few of each item in stock. I think it took all of 3 days to order and receive the kit.
Once they arrived I had Adrs2k come over and do his usual round of pictures. The quality of these things are phenomenal. Just holding them in your hands you can see why the price tag is what it is. Granted I haven't put them on yet but I am very excited to see what they can do. On with the pictures!
I went a little overboard with the pictures and documentation but since these things seldom pop up I thought it would be worthwhile.
The Disclaimer and Instructions
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Instructions - Disclaimer (1) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Instructions (1) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Instructions (2) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Instructions (3) by Feezy, on Flickr
Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (1) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (2) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (3) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (5) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (6) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (7) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (8) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (9) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (10) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (11) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (12) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (13) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (14) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (15) by Feezy, on Flickr
You can find a link to the original Hayward thread here: https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-na...hread-1074062/
After a lot of back and forth I finally settled on the Toda Sports Injection kit. I figured if their kits are good enough for pretty much all of the JDM racing houses then they are good enough for me. The Toda set up has the additional benefit of having an optional surge tank (air box). Not only would this let me funnel air straight to the throttles, it also looks fantastic in the engine bay, and helps cleaning everything up for an OEM'ish look. It also presents a series of problems which I'll get into later.
The other option that really sold me on the Todas was the additional ISCV piece. Basically it's a tube shaped vacuum block that has an idle air control valve off of some Toyota incorporated into it. The Toda manifold is set up with multiple vacuum sources, so you can have a dedicated line and block for things like the FPR, MAP, Brake Booster, and then you can have a completely separate system for the IACV. That way you don't lost vacuum when you're at idle and the IACV opens up.
At the beginning of 2016 I had placed an order for the Toda 50mm Sports Injection kit, the Toda Dry Carbon Surge Tank, and the Toda ISCV. Unfortunately a few days after I was informed than the surge tank and ISCV were both on indefinite back order and it didn't sound like they had any ETA on when they would be restocking. I was going with the Todas because of the two optional pieces that I couldn't get at the time, so I canceled the order.
At the end of 2016 I had a large chunk of time off of work and I decided to start making some progress on putting the Ap1 back together. I had talked with a guy I found on Instagram about purchasing his set of Todas that he picked up and never used, but the price and condition just didn't make sense for me to pull the trigger. They looked good, and they came with some extras, but they had changed hands a few times by people who had never installed them and I couldn't be confident that they still had all the pieces. I'll also say that if you're trying to sell rare parts for a large premium you can do your self a favor by taking more than two pictures of everything thrown into a box, and reply with more than "everything in the picture is included" when asked for a detailed breakdown of what's actually included and pictures of the condition. At this point I decided I wasn't going to buy used and inquired again about the Todas. To my surprise I heard back almost immediately that they had just restocked and a few of each item in stock. I think it took all of 3 days to order and receive the kit.
Once they arrived I had Adrs2k come over and do his usual round of pictures. The quality of these things are phenomenal. Just holding them in your hands you can see why the price tag is what it is. Granted I haven't put them on yet but I am very excited to see what they can do. On with the pictures!
I went a little overboard with the pictures and documentation but since these things seldom pop up I thought it would be worthwhile.
The Disclaimer and Instructions
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Instructions - Disclaimer (1) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Instructions (1) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Instructions (2) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Instructions (3) by Feezy, on Flickr
Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (1) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (2) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (3) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (5) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (6) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (7) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (8) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (9) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (10) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (11) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (12) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (13) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (14) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - 50mm Sports Injection Kit with 88mm Trumpets (15) by Feezy, on Flickr
Last edited by Feezy; 01-23-2017 at 12:33 PM.
#434
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Toda Dry Carbon Surge Tank & ISCV
Toda Dry Carbon Surge Tank
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (1) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (2) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (3) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (4) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (5) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (6) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (7) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (8) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (9) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (10) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (11) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (13) by Feezy, on Flickr
Toda ISCV
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - ISCV Kit (1) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - ISCV Kit (2) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - ISCV Kit (3) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - ISCV Kit (4) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (1) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (2) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (3) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (4) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (5) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (6) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (7) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (8) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (9) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (10) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (11) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - Dry Carbon Surge Tank (13) by Feezy, on Flickr
Toda ISCV
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - ISCV Kit (1) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - ISCV Kit (2) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - ISCV Kit (3) by Feezy, on Flickr
12.23.2016 - Toda Racing - ISCV Kit (4) by Feezy, on Flickr
Last edited by Feezy; 01-23-2017 at 12:22 PM.
#435
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It's about time you've posted updates.
#436
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#439
#440
Holy crap what an update!