2018/2019 Honda S2000
01-31-2017, 07:48 AM
#11
Gen 1 was a bit less than a Boxster
if there is a Gen 2 the pattern should follow
i would not expect it to follow any Vette framework for MSRP
what is the point in referencing used car prices for other makes/models?
if there is a Gen 2 the pattern should follow
i would not expect it to follow any Vette framework for MSRP
what is the point in referencing used car prices for other makes/models?
01-31-2017, 07:49 AM
#12
$50K? No dice. Especially if it only has a dual clutch. Too many other options in that price range. And before somebody posts how that is in line with inflation from the original, I don't care. The original was excellent performance for when it was released into a market void of much competition and at a decent price. Now you are talking about getting back in just under a Vette with far less hp. 320hp for $50k with an auto sounds like a hairdresser's car. This board just gave (Spudracer?) a whole boatload of crap about how his SLK AMG was just such a vehicle and not a sports car. By the time it comes out there will be plenty of used Cayman/Boxster S four bangers at 350 hp, your choice of PDK or manual and around 3,000 pounds.
To each their own, but to get me interested the target price and weight need to come down, and/or the HP go up.
The WRX is currently 305hp and under 3500 pounds for $27k to start.
To each their own, but to get me interested the target price and weight need to come down, and/or the HP go up.
The WRX is currently 305hp and under 3500 pounds for $27k to start.
01-31-2017, 08:27 AM
#13
I'm more concerned about the weight and complexity than the transmission type. That being said I hope it's at or under 3000 lb and comes with a 6 speed manual. But while weight is a dealbreaker for me, a DCT is not.
And while this supposed "$50k" price may fall in line with inflation adjustment for the original S2000's MSRP, let's all remember that the original MSRP was above true market value. Maybe Honda will be smarter this time with assigning it the correct MSRP.
And while this supposed "$50k" price may fall in line with inflation adjustment for the original S2000's MSRP, let's all remember that the original MSRP was above true market value. Maybe Honda will be smarter this time with assigning it the correct MSRP.
01-31-2017, 08:29 AM
#14
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Yeah. Until it is coming from Honda directly I won't believe. To many "sources" have given "updates" all of which turned out to be fake. I can see $50k but not a fan of the hybrid drive stuff. I realize that tech has to move forward but there is no reason every single car has to move in the same direction.
01-31-2017, 08:33 AM
#15
I'm not opposed to a conventional turbo and an electric supercharger. The electric supercharger wouldn't add that much weight or complexity, would it? (outside of the 48V electrical system required....lol)
01-31-2017, 08:39 AM
#16
50k is a pretty good sweet spot, not a lot of sports cars in that arena. Not sure I see a Honda being 50K when other small Japanese sports cars are half that (Toyota 86, ND Miata etc) unless it has significantly more performance.
01-31-2017, 09:14 AM
#17
I'd like everything that was good about the S2000 to be more extreme and better than before. Could grow in size a little too; don't mind. Trickle down technology from the NSX kinda wets the fire on any manual offering. I hope not. I'd to like to see the S2000 out do the 911 or Shelby's shifting precision by a margin. Tough... Make it rev even higher than before. A wail that can be heard from blocks at red line... Cool air management technology...
01-31-2017, 10:05 AM
#18
I'd prefer a more powerful engine in a great chassis with solid brakes and manual. Don't NSX the damn thing for goodness sakes. Take the S2000 and just make it faster and handle better. Don't reinvent the wheel for reinventing the wheel's sake. The 6MT and brakes certainly don't need any help unless you make them better. Any technological marvel will need technological marvel maintenance.
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01-31-2017, 11:29 AM
#19
I'd prefer a more powerful engine in a great chassis with solid brakes and manual. Don't NSX the damn thing for goodness sakes. Take the S2000 and just make it faster and handle better. Don't reinvent the wheel for reinventing the wheel's sake. The 6MT and brakes certainly don't need any help unless you make them better. Any technological marvel will need technological marvel maintenance.
- DCT might help sell more units, but offer a manual transmission too
- 300-ish HP
- Less than 3000lbs.
- Update the style
- Keep it simple like the original. (No nannies, no navigation, keep it a pure sports car)
01-31-2017, 01:08 PM
#20
It will take a pretty big feat to hit 300+ hp, sub 3,000 lbs and sub 50K. The only currently produced sports car I can think of that are less than 3,000 lbs and more than 300 hp are the base 718 Boxster/Cayman which start at 56K. Currently the only cheaper sports cars that are sub 3,000 lbs are the BRZ/FRS, ND Miata, Alfa 4C and all have dinky 4 cyl engines making nowhere near 300+ hp.
My guess is 3,200-3,400 lbs, 325-350 hp and 50K base up to 60K.
My guess is 3,200-3,400 lbs, 325-350 hp and 50K base up to 60K.
