Which country makes the best sports cars?
08-29-2016, 06:47 AM
#21
Japan.
Miata.
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Miata.
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08-29-2016, 08:35 AM
#22
Originally Posted by S2ALEXIS' timestamp='1472455015' post='24049835
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Germany
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Now, if we said supercars, I would say Italy.
Germany
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Now, if we said supercars, I would say Italy.
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Like Wolfpack stated.... they're practically the same car. Ferrari and Maserati do take parts from Chrysler. But can you compare using the whole engine to using a few buttons on the interior?
But like you said, I don't really mind that they share parts, it's being more efficient. If they make a great platform they should run with it. The reason I brought it up was because you can't call the Huracán a "truly italian" car when most of its components are German.
08-29-2016, 08:42 AM
#23
Soon Jaguar and BMW will be sharing a V8 engine! Not exactly like when Land Rover used a BMW V8 (awful engine IMO), but this time around there is some collaboration between the two marques. Should be interesting.
08-29-2016, 03:40 PM
#25
I would say Great Britain over Germany by a nose.
Great Britain has more variety - from Ariels, Morgans, Radicals, and Lotuses up to McLarens, Jags, Astons, etc. They also have a long history of elemental sports cars - MGs, Triumphs, Lotuses, Jag roadsters, etc. They really have a lot of unique flavors and pure driving experiences vs. Germany, which is basically Porsche and a bunch of luxo-sleds, many of which aren't even quite as good as they once were IMO.
With the enormous exception of Porsche, I see Germany as makers of the best sports sedans, but not sports cars overall. I mean, between Mercedes, Audi, and BMW barely make what you could consider a "sports car" at all these days, except maybe the M4 and a few well over $100k (R8, SLS, i8... really more supercar/GT category than sports car). The fact that Merc has had like one car in its lineup at any one time over the past ~20 years with a manual doesn't help.
I might be tempted to put Italy above Germany, except that other than the Fiat (really a Miata) and Alfa 4C, everything is $200k++ (current Maseratis aren't really sports cars).
Great Britain has more variety - from Ariels, Morgans, Radicals, and Lotuses up to McLarens, Jags, Astons, etc. They also have a long history of elemental sports cars - MGs, Triumphs, Lotuses, Jag roadsters, etc. They really have a lot of unique flavors and pure driving experiences vs. Germany, which is basically Porsche and a bunch of luxo-sleds, many of which aren't even quite as good as they once were IMO.
With the enormous exception of Porsche, I see Germany as makers of the best sports sedans, but not sports cars overall. I mean, between Mercedes, Audi, and BMW barely make what you could consider a "sports car" at all these days, except maybe the M4 and a few well over $100k (R8, SLS, i8... really more supercar/GT category than sports car). The fact that Merc has had like one car in its lineup at any one time over the past ~20 years with a manual doesn't help.
I might be tempted to put Italy above Germany, except that other than the Fiat (really a Miata) and Alfa 4C, everything is $200k++ (current Maseratis aren't really sports cars).
08-29-2016, 07:07 PM
#26
Where is Porsche from? That place. 
Really the it's only German company that is still making sports cars vs "sporty" luxury cars.
Other than Germany for Porsche, I would actually say Britain these days - Lotus and McLaren, plus Atom, really "get it".
Italy? I can't think of many sports cars, just exotics. Maybe the 4C and Fiata, but no strong showing.
Really the it's only German company that is still making sports cars vs "sporty" luxury cars.Other than Germany for Porsche, I would actually say Britain these days - Lotus and McLaren, plus Atom, really "get it".
Italy? I can't think of many sports cars, just exotics. Maybe the 4C and Fiata, but no strong showing.
08-30-2016, 05:56 AM
#27
I would say Great Britain over Germany by a nose.
Great Britain has more variety - from Ariels, Morgans, Radicals, and Lotuses up to McLarens, Jags, Astons, etc. They also have a long history of elemental sports cars - MGs, Triumphs, Lotuses, Jag roadsters, etc. They really have a lot of unique flavors and pure driving experiences vs. Germany, which is basically Porsche and a bunch of luxo-sleds, many of which aren't even quite as good as they once were IMO.
With the enormous exception of Porsche, I see Germany as makers of the best sports sedans, but not sports cars overall. I mean, between Mercedes, Audi, and BMW barely make what you could consider a "sports car" at all these days, except maybe the M4 and a few well over $100k (R8, SLS, i8... really more supercar/GT category than sports car). The fact that Merc has had like one car in its lineup at any one time over the past ~20 years with a manual doesn't help.
I might be tempted to put Italy above Germany, except that other than the Fiat (really a Miata) and Alfa 4C, everything is $200k++ (current Maseratis aren't really sports cars).
Great Britain has more variety - from Ariels, Morgans, Radicals, and Lotuses up to McLarens, Jags, Astons, etc. They also have a long history of elemental sports cars - MGs, Triumphs, Lotuses, Jag roadsters, etc. They really have a lot of unique flavors and pure driving experiences vs. Germany, which is basically Porsche and a bunch of luxo-sleds, many of which aren't even quite as good as they once were IMO.
With the enormous exception of Porsche, I see Germany as makers of the best sports sedans, but not sports cars overall. I mean, between Mercedes, Audi, and BMW barely make what you could consider a "sports car" at all these days, except maybe the M4 and a few well over $100k (R8, SLS, i8... really more supercar/GT category than sports car). The fact that Merc has had like one car in its lineup at any one time over the past ~20 years with a manual doesn't help.
I might be tempted to put Italy above Germany, except that other than the Fiat (really a Miata) and Alfa 4C, everything is $200k++ (current Maseratis aren't really sports cars).
08-30-2016, 07:39 AM
#29
Originally Posted by white98ls' timestamp='1472514030' post='24050613
I would say Great Britain over Germany by a nose.
Great Britain has more variety - from Ariels, Morgans, Radicals, and Lotuses up to McLarens, Jags, Astons, etc. They also have a long history of elemental sports cars - MGs, Triumphs, Lotuses, Jag roadsters, etc. They really have a lot of unique flavors and pure driving experiences vs. Germany, which is basically Porsche and a bunch of luxo-sleds, many of which aren't even quite as good as they once were IMO.
With the enormous exception of Porsche, I see Germany as makers of the best sports sedans, but not sports cars overall. I mean, between Mercedes, Audi, and BMW barely make what you could consider a "sports car" at all these days, except maybe the M4 and a few well over $100k (R8, SLS, i8... really more supercar/GT category than sports car). The fact that Merc has had like one car in its lineup at any one time over the past ~20 years with a manual doesn't help.
I might be tempted to put Italy above Germany, except that other than the Fiat (really a Miata) and Alfa 4C, everything is $200k++ (current Maseratis aren't really sports cars).
Great Britain has more variety - from Ariels, Morgans, Radicals, and Lotuses up to McLarens, Jags, Astons, etc. They also have a long history of elemental sports cars - MGs, Triumphs, Lotuses, Jag roadsters, etc. They really have a lot of unique flavors and pure driving experiences vs. Germany, which is basically Porsche and a bunch of luxo-sleds, many of which aren't even quite as good as they once were IMO.
With the enormous exception of Porsche, I see Germany as makers of the best sports sedans, but not sports cars overall. I mean, between Mercedes, Audi, and BMW barely make what you could consider a "sports car" at all these days, except maybe the M4 and a few well over $100k (R8, SLS, i8... really more supercar/GT category than sports car). The fact that Merc has had like one car in its lineup at any one time over the past ~20 years with a manual doesn't help.
I might be tempted to put Italy above Germany, except that other than the Fiat (really a Miata) and Alfa 4C, everything is $200k++ (current Maseratis aren't really sports cars).
09-02-2016, 02:55 PM
#30
Japan of course. They built the S2000 
Of course im not just looking at a single facet, but rather many, such as initial cost and diminished value over time, cost to maintain, performance, fun factor/driver involvement, uniqueness, and looks, all of which the Japanese has proven they can do better then many. So any jokes aside, on the grand scale, our precious little s2000 hits quite high marks when all considered compared to any sports car at almost any price, so im a little surprised and disappointed no one has mentioned yet.
Of course im not just looking at a single facet, but rather many, such as initial cost and diminished value over time, cost to maintain, performance, fun factor/driver involvement, uniqueness, and looks, all of which the Japanese has proven they can do better then many. So any jokes aside, on the grand scale, our precious little s2000 hits quite high marks when all considered compared to any sports car at almost any price, so im a little surprised and disappointed no one has mentioned yet.