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Old 10-27-2016, 08:30 AM
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whats the exact problem with it?


Btw, a vette should be purchased in manual trim unless the circumstances are exigent (i.e. lost a leg in iraq, migrating arthritis, polymyalgia rheumatica, elevated ESR, etc),

if you look back at vette resale values, all manual variants are fetching 4-5k above equivalent automatic used models.
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Originally Posted by EastS2k
whats the exact problem with it?


Btw, a vette should be purchased in manual trim unless the circumstances are exigent (i.e. lost a leg in iraq, migrating arthritis, polymyalgia rheumatica, elevated ESR, etc),

if you look back at vette resale values, all manual variants are fetching 4-5k above equivalent automatic used models.
PMR, elevated ESR? that came out of left field.
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Originally Posted by EastS2k
whats the exact problem with it?


Btw, a vette should be purchased in manual trim unless the circumstances are exigent (i.e. lost a leg in iraq, migrating arthritis, polymyalgia rheumatica, elevated ESR, etc),

if you look back at vette resale values, all manual variants are fetching 4-5k above equivalent automatic used models.
According to the owners on the C7 forum, there is a severe shudder and rough shifting. When they take it to the dealership, the torque converter needs to be replaced.
Old 10-28-2016, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Haze
According to the owners on the C7 forum, there is a severe shudder and rough shifting. When they take it to the dealership, the torque converter needs to be replaced.
GM quality...always on point.
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Is it their tranny or a zf?
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Originally Posted by rob-2
Is it their tranny or a zf?
No I believe it was developed in house.
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Small percentage of automatics are experiencing this issue, but as normal, the owners are vocal. I would be too if my automatic was acting up.

i keep buying GM cars because they aren't perfect (what brand is?) , but are largely reliable, fun, and a great value. I also have a great dealership and service department. They always put me in a new Silveradonor Tahoe loaner too when car is in for service.
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Agree with @QUIKAG. It used to be that I would not allow my wife in anything other than a Honda product. Then I bought first one CTS-V, then another, and my mind opened up. Last year the wife's Pilot needed replaced and she wanted a Buick Enclave.....and I didn't flinch. I didn't pay MSRP, obviously, but it's a reasonably reliable ride with some known issues that can be avoided.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still a Honda fanboy with a NSX and RLX in the driveway....but I'm no longer afraid to go domestic, or at least GM. PS their snafu with the Stingray's AT is a rare drivetrain screwup. Typically GM's drivetrains are solid and reliable. I've always joked that GM needed to look to Honda for interior build quality, and Honda needed to look to GM for drivetrain reliability.
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There is something nice about the layout of Honda interiors. GM good learn a thing or two from them.
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I read some article, (was it Jalopnik?) a couple weeks ago about huge discounts on Camaro's. And another one about the average incentive on full size pickups being $8k right now across all brands.

First sign the economy is headed south again. Pent up demand is gone and huge incentives needed to move built up inventory. Factory slowdowns will follow among other things. But aside from the 2.9% growth rate published by the feds for third quarter growth, (which will be revised downward after the election) I think things are slowing down and not speeding up.

I'd buy a car right now, and in fact I have, but if I felt my job was on the margin, no way I'd pull the trigger right now.


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