Logical upgrade from my S2000?
05-15-2015, 08:57 AM
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I love Z4m too!! Coupe though. I love the rare stuff. I like the Z8 too.
Elise is not daily drive friendly. But I assume it is ultra fun on tight track and autox.
The time when I sold my S2000, my choices were Cayman S or NSX. Today, if I would have to do it over again, it would be the C2S, GT3, GT4, or NSX(it can be fast and daily able) and anything else will be too much money.
Elise is not daily drive friendly. But I assume it is ultra fun on tight track and autox.
The time when I sold my S2000, my choices were Cayman S or NSX. Today, if I would have to do it over again, it would be the C2S, GT3, GT4, or NSX(it can be fast and daily able) and anything else will be too much money.
05-15-2015, 09:05 AM
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Out of all the cars I've driven since the s2000 the closest in terms of driver involvement / driving dynamic was the Z4M. It feels more stable, has more power / torque, and responds to driver inputs with similar immediacy. It is roughly 350-400lbs heavier than an s2000 but it doesn't feel significantly heavier in the bends IMHO. If you want exclusivity it's also super rare.
05-15-2015, 09:13 AM
#24
Lotus Evora would be my first suggestion. Toyota engine, mid-engine design, good looks, rare, great sound, easy to work on (overall) and while build quality was originally a bit sketchy, they do seem to have gotten better.
987.2 Cayman/Boxster S would tick all the right boxes as well. The newer engine (2009+ models) is more reliable than earlier models. The 981 model (2012+) is even better, overall, but is quite a bit pricier.
BMW Z4 M coupe is an alternate suggestion (and my current car). Way more power and torque (comparable power to a nicely supercharged S2000 but still way more torque), somewhat heavier, more refined, more balanced (but less agile), worse shifter, way nicer interior and amenities, and quite rare. I raced an E92 M3 today and stayed with him from a 10mph roll. I'm neck-and-neck with the same car around our local track (me on old Continentals, him on Pilot Super Sports), so it's relatively quick, all things considered.
987.2 Cayman/Boxster S would tick all the right boxes as well. The newer engine (2009+ models) is more reliable than earlier models. The 981 model (2012+) is even better, overall, but is quite a bit pricier.
BMW Z4 M coupe is an alternate suggestion (and my current car). Way more power and torque (comparable power to a nicely supercharged S2000 but still way more torque), somewhat heavier, more refined, more balanced (but less agile), worse shifter, way nicer interior and amenities, and quite rare. I raced an E92 M3 today and stayed with him from a 10mph roll. I'm neck-and-neck with the same car around our local track (me on old Continentals, him on Pilot Super Sports), so it's relatively quick, all things considered.
Z4 M is another car on my test drive bucket list. I drove a Z3 M (US spec with 240hp) and hated the clutch, clunky shifter, and darty suspension. But again, maybe it was the example I drove.
Originally Posted by JonBoy' timestamp='1431706420' post='23614080
Lotus Evora would be my first suggestion. Toyota engine, mid-engine design, good looks, rare, great sound, easy to work on (overall) and while build quality was originally a bit sketchy, they do seem to have gotten better.
Originally Posted by Zygrene' timestamp='1431668086' post='23613582
2) Exclusivity - I want it to look and feel special even before starting the engine
I love Z4m too!! Coupe though. I love the rare stuff. I like the Z8 too.
Elise is not daily drive friendly. But I assume it is ultra fun on tight track and autox.
The time when I sold my S2000, my choices were Cayman S or NSX. Today, if I would have to do it over again, it would be the C2S, GT3, GT4, or NSX(it can be fast and daily able) and anything else will be too much money.
Elise is not daily drive friendly. But I assume it is ultra fun on tight track and autox.
The time when I sold my S2000, my choices were Cayman S or NSX. Today, if I would have to do it over again, it would be the C2S, GT3, GT4, or NSX(it can be fast and daily able) and anything else will be too much money.
Seriously, lol.
05-15-2015, 09:26 AM
#25
Out of all the cars I've driven since the s2000 the closest in terms of driver involvement / driving dynamic was the Z4M. It feels more stable, has more power / torque, and responds to driver inputs with similar immediacy. It is roughly 350-400lbs heavier than an s2000 but it doesn't feel significantly heavier in the bends IMHO. If you want exclusivity it's also super rare.
05-15-2015, 10:21 AM
#26
It's a better GT car than the S2000 but it's still too rough and small to be a good GT car.
05-15-2015, 11:20 AM
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05-15-2015, 03:50 PM
#30
going back to the E46 M3 comparison.... it's really apples to oranges comparing it to an S2000. totally different car. the high points to me on the E46 are the looks and the motor(smooth revving, flexible, nice power deliver). the low points are the rubbery shifter and the poor interior materials(like most BMWs). the handling and braking are good, but the car feels heavy. here's my main problem with M3s: it's based on an entry level luxury sedan.
not that the M3 doesn't have its strong points, but i think there is a lot to be said for a car that was designed and built to be a sports car.
not that the M3 doesn't have its strong points, but i think there is a lot to be said for a car that was designed and built to be a sports car.