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Mobil 1 R (Racing) has been released
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Mobil® 1 Racing 0W-30 Pdf

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Product Description Features & Benefits Applications Typical Properties Health & Safety

Product Description
Team Penske, West McLaren Mercedes, Porsche, Mopar Performance, Corvette Racing and an incredible 74 percent of NASCAR drivers trust Mobil 1 technology to protect their racing engines. Mobil 1 Racing 0W-30, specifically designed for exceptional performance and protection in NASCAR engines, is now being made available to consumers.

Features & Benefits
Mobil 1 Racing 0W-30 is a proprietary blend of high-performance synthetic basestocks fortified with SuperSyn anti-wear technology. This advanced protection is engineered to deliver maximum horsepower.


Has boosted levels of anti-wear protection -- well beyond those of ordinary automotive oils -- to help protect engines even during grueling racing applications.
Maximizes power output by reducing internal friction.
Has outstanding shear stability and a robust additive package to help reduce oil breakdown and help extend engine life, even under the most extreme conditions.
Compared to conventional racing oils and higher-viscosity synthetic motor oils, it provides faster flow to critical engine parts at low temperatures
Delivers exceptional high-temperature protection, even at temperatures up to 400 degrees F (204 C)

Applications
Mobil 1 Racing 0W-30 is intended for professional, amateur "weekend" race cars, as well as, modern high-output engines of all kinds. It is ideal for supercharged, turbocharged and high-revving, high-performance engines used in street applications. Note: Mobil 1 Racing 0W-30 is a different formula than Mobil 1 with SuperSyn 0W-30.
Mobil 1 Racing 0W-30 is especially suitable for racing conditions, where conventional oil may not provide adequate protection
Mobil 1 Racing 0W-30 is designed for use by professional, amateur and weekend racers.
Mobil 1 Racing 0W-30 is ideal for high-horsepower, high output engines used in street applications.
Mobil 1 is not recommended for 2-Cycle or aviation engines, unless specifically approved by the manufacturer.


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Typical Properties

Mobil 1 Racing 0W-30

SAE Grade 0W-30SAE Grade 0W-30
Viscosity, ASTM D 445
cSt @ 40ºC 56
cSt @ 100ºC 10.3
Viscosity Index, ASTM D 2270 175
Sulfated Ash, wt%, ASTM D 874 1.2
HTHS Viscosity, mPa·s @ 150ºC ASTM D 4683 2.99
Pour Point, ºC, ASTM D 97 -54
Flash Point, ºC, ASTM D 92 234
Density @15º C kg/l, ASTM D 4052 0.851
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That is all I know abou this product - rumor has it that it has more esters than regular Mobil1.


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anyone have any thoughts on this?


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Originally posted by Hickey322
anyone have any thoughts on this?


I have a few, but they involve 5000 18 year olds in thongs, covered in Mobil1 R, as I descend down from a golden throne amongst them wearing my Sun God robes and head-dress.

The stuff is going for $10.95 a quart! I smell bling-bling ("I am using the same earl as dat dare Nascar feller, uh hunk uh hunka").

For 10.95, it should come with at least one of my fantasy girls!!!

http://store.yahoo.com/rodi/mo1raoil.html

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Here is the actual PDS from Mobil 1:
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS...acing_0W-30.asp

Here is a Virgin Oil Analysis (VOA) of Mobil 1R:

Aluminum 0
Chromium 0
Iron 1
Copper 0
Lead 0
Tin 0
Moly 78
Nickel 0
Maganese 0
Silver 0
Titanium 0
Potassium 0
Boron 178
Silicon 5
Sodium 14
Calcium 3024
Magnesium 13
Phosphorus 1399
Zinc 1536
Barium 0

SUS 62.3
Flash 435

TBN 13.5

http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultima...c;f=11;t=000185

AVLubricants has been selling it for some time now at $41 for six quarts:
http://store.avlube.com/mo1r0wraoil.html

The ester content is guestimated at 15% by one of the posters over at bobistheoilguy.com

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A question I have is whether this is suitable for a street car, especially one in cooler/cold temps (ala winter in the northeast).


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A 0w30 should have no low temperature issues - if it ever gets colder than what a 0w30 can handle where you live, I would not go outdoors in a convertible.

The oil analysis is what I expected when i first heard about this oil - they have gone back to high levels of zinc dithiophosphate, the most proven anti-wear and friction modifiers known to modern tribology. These high levels are also found in Amsoil and Red Line. I doubt Mobil1 will be API-certified since the mfr's hate the high ZDPT levels. That is a very high TBN - which makes the Mobil1 R more likely to offer long drain intervals than regular M1.

So, the Mobil1 1 Racing formulation is retro. I think it makes a good case that Amsoil and Red Line have been right all along in not succumbing to industry pressures, and just making the best oil they know how to.

15% ester sounds right, but you can get 100% ester in Red Line, and the Amsoil product has proven that man does not live by esters alone. At a certain point, the only real advantages to esters are their polar affinity to metal, and their high temperature stability, which is more important in turbines than internal combustion engines.

Regarding "theoildrop" and the questions about whether Mobil1 is GIV or GV. There is absolutely no doubt that M1 is PAO!!!!
Here is a quote from their own website:

"Question: Red Line Oil claims to have 100 percent polyolester base stocks. Are these different or better than the base stocks used in Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™?
We are very familiar with polyolesters. In fact, we manufacture them and use them in our aviation jet engine oils such as Mobil Jet Oil II® and Mobil Jet Oil 254® and in our refrigeration compressor lubricants, where the polyolesters are utilized for their compatibility with new HFC refrigerants. Polyolesters are indeed excellent at high-temperature oxidation stability and low volatility.

However, our work on automobile engines and jet engine designs has shown that polyalphaolefins (PAOs) offer the best all-around performance for gasoline engines due to their:

Being completely compatible with conventional oils and gasoline engine seals.
Providing both low- and high-temperature performance.
Providing a stable oil in the presence of water and moisture.
Having anti-rust capabilities."

So they have changed their tune a bit, no?????

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QUOTE
Originally posted by Road Rage
A 0w30 should have no low temperature issues - if it ever gets colder than what a 0w30 can handle where you live, I would not go outdoors in a convertible.

I wasn't questioning the low temperature flow qualities, just whether anything else might prove problematic. Basically, would a race oil, which most likely was designed for high-temperature use, be an issue in places and driving that might not heat the oil to full temperature all the time compared to a "normal" lubricant that's driven the same way?

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Originally posted by Road Rage
 

I have a few, but they involve 5000 18 year olds in thongs, covered in Mobil1 R, as I descend down from a golden throne amongst them wearing my Sun God robes and head-dress.


http://store.yahoo.com/rodi/mo1raoil.html


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What a visual that gave me.

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I wasn't questioning the low temperature flow qualities, just whether anything else might prove problematic.  Basically, would a race oil, which most likely was designed for high-temperature use, be an issue in places and driving that might not heat the oil to full temperature all the time compared to a "normal" lubricant that's driven the same way?


I don't think it is a race oil in the tardtional sense, where it is forulated very thin and made to resist methanol fouling, etc.

I think they mean that the high ZDP counts will resist wear in the harshest use, including racing. Same as Mobil1 R says.

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Do you reckon Walmart will start carrying this in 5 quart jugs? smile.gif


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Do you reckon Walmart will start carrying this in 5 quart jugs? smile.gif


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so is this oil even worth the extra cost, i am still debating on what synthetic oil i will run after 10 thousand. Any opinions


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Any opinions


I have one!

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What a visual that gave me.

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i'm looking forward to trying this oil at least once. but i think since i change my oil every 3k it would be a waste of money.


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mmmm...18 year old virgins...yummy.

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mmmmm....older women
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virgins are for kids..


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18 year old virgins are from the past.... now its 18 year old girls who have been **** the least.

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^ i agree.

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RR, would this oil suit someone looking to upgrade from Redline 10W-40? I have decreased the amount of oil consumption (1qt every 2K) with the RL 10W-40.
So the tolerances on my engine might be a little loose.

Would the 0-30 Mobil Race oil be as prone to the consumption pattern I experienced with the RL 10W30 (1qt~1.5K)? How close do they compare?


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Cut the crap and get back to cars.


so u call it "crap"?

are you a homo? my bad...

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Wow, That was mature. So hes a "homo" because he is simply asking that this thread get back on topic. We have other forums that are more suitable to discussion of hot 18 year old virgins/non-virgins, I on the other hand opened this thread to read about oil.


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