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 Stratocaster |
Posted: Apr 25 2004, 03:06 PM
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Rick's Accessories  S2KI User #: 6563 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 55 days PPD Average: 3.4 Owner 2002 Sebring Silver/Black Houston, TX   |
Update: dyno results are in!
We have been working with a company for some time. We set out with a number of goals.
Well this is what we ended up with. I know we hit three of the four and we will know about the fourth after a dnyo session or two. Comments? Questions? Weight: 12.8 lbs    Well we finally got this Dnyo'ed on the Dec 30th. Here is the results. We got an increase in HP in the lower and mid range with the largest improvement 6hp at 6200 rpm. With a max HP loss of 3hp at the top end. As you can see from the Dyno plot it start out strong and trails off at 7600. Torque was up as well, all along the same curve as the HP. I would say it plots out just about like the Mugen header. This post has been edited by Stratocaster on Jan 2 2005, 05:59 PM -------------------- Want to send me a PM, use e-mail instead. To send me an e-mail, click here ->  FS: List of my FS Threads      
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| duff0000 |
Posted: Apr 25 2004, 03:09 PM
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Member  S2KI User #: 31046 S2KI Age: 6 yrs 81 days PPD Average: 2.2 Owner 2001 GrandPrix White/Black-Red Westlake |
Wow.....nice, keep us posted on the gains if it has any......
-------------------- AP1 Supercharged / built S2000 Competition M3 85 Porsche 944 (needs help) |
   
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| Slows2k |
Posted: Apr 25 2004, 03:12 PM
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Poop Magnet  S2KI User #: 13878 S2KI Age: 7 yrs 157 days PPD Average: 9.3 Owner 2002 Spa/Indy Yellow/Black |
Looks nice, Jeff. Are you using mild steel then coating, or Stainless steel? How thick is the flange were it attaches to the head?
-------------------- Whoretech'd twice ;) R.I.P. JS.          
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| Stratocaster |
Posted: Apr 25 2004, 03:15 PM
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Rick's Accessories S2KI User #: 6563 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 55 days PPD Average: 3.4 Owner 2002 Sebring Silver/Black Houston, TX |
It is made out of Stainless Steel. The mounting flange is 3/8" (same as stock)
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| beroznikmal |
Posted: Apr 25 2004, 03:20 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 10384 S2KI Age: 7 yrs 245 days PPD Average: 1 Owner 2001 Berlina Black/Black yes |
equal length?? looks great btw...
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| Dark_Sub_Rosa |
Posted: Apr 25 2004, 03:23 PM
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Moderator S2KI User #: 27134 S2KI Age: 6 yrs 201 days PPD Average: 15.1 Enthusiast TN |
I can't wait to see the #'s on this thing.
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| Punisher |
Posted: Apr 25 2004, 03:35 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 23140 S2KI Age: 6 yrs 288 days PPD Average: 0.8 Owner 2003 Berlina Black/Black NOVA |
nice! hope it puts out good numbers
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| dut |
Posted: Apr 25 2004, 04:15 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 31551 S2KI Age: 6 yrs 53 days PPD Average: 2 Owner 2002 Berlina Black/Black south san diego |
- lets see some numbers...
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| ricosuave |
Posted: Apr 25 2004, 04:20 PM
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Member S2KI User #: 277 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 118 days PPD Average: 1.4 Owner 2000 New Formula Red/Black VA Beach VA/ G Vegas NC  |
do you know if the goal was broader power along the mid-rpms or higher HP at the top end?
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| Road Rage |
Posted: Apr 25 2004, 04:20 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 27613 S2KI Age: 6 yrs 191 days PPD Average: 1.5 Owner 2004 Silverstone/Black-Red Midlothian |
Welds look very nice - if they can keep the quality up, and the flanges don't crack, and we see a few ponies, you will have a winner. (We just want it all, you know that). But I like seeing US mfr's undercutting the Japanese tuners and their yen for high prices.
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| wannabuy |
Posted: Apr 25 2004, 07:26 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 31905 S2KI Age: 6 yrs 36 days PPD Average: 0.8 Owner 2002 Spa/Indy Yellow/Black somewhere |
So when can I buy one?
-------------------- 447whp 340tq@13psi Dyno Dynamics. More to come as the motor gets a full break in. 17psi to come soon with 500whp+ easy peasy. Now it is time to enjoy the car for what it was built to do.   
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| PilotKD |
Posted: Apr 25 2004, 08:29 PM
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Member S2KI User #: 31233 S2KI Age: 6 yrs 71 days PPD Average: 1.1 Owner 2004 Suzuka/Nurburgring Blue/Blue South Jersey |
Wow, looks nice. Welds do look good, but it's a shame this car requires so many of them to route a header down underneath the car (not anything against your design, because they're all like this). Can't wait to see the numbers.
Kris -------------------- 2004 Suzuka Blue S2000
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| MacGyver |
Posted: Apr 25 2004, 08:38 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 225 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 120 days PPD Average: 2.5 Owner 2000 Custom Color/Black Columbia, MD |
Out of curiosity, what prevents someone from bending a single tube into the correct shape once the welded design is finalized?
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| Eri_S2k |
Posted: Apr 25 2004, 10:27 PM
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Community Organizer  S2KI User #: 33524 S2KI Age: 5 yrs 337 days PPD Average: 3.1 Owner 2004 Suzuka/Nurburgring Blue/Blue Condado/Puerto Rico  |
Nice Put some Dyno Runs!
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| AusS2000 |
Posted: Apr 26 2004, 03:48 AM
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Moderator S2KI User #: 5 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 124 days PPD Average: 8.3 Owner 2000 Silverstone/Red Sydney  |
To get nice smooth bends you use a mandrel. That's a device with a piece that goes inside the tube and stretches the metal. As a result, bends have to be close to the end of the pipe. Hence all the short lengths welded together.  
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| ccarnel |
Posted: Apr 26 2004, 05:57 AM
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Guest S2KI User #: 3996 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 198 days PPD Average: 1 Owner 2001 Silverstone/Black Johnson City |
very nice.. now dyno that biatchhhh!
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| MacGyver |
Posted: Apr 26 2004, 06:35 AM
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Guest S2KI User #: 225 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 120 days PPD Average: 2.5 Owner 2000 Custom Color/Black Columbia, MD |
Didn't realize a piece went inside the tube for mandrel bends...thought it only went through a set of wheels/pulleys to slowly bend the metal rather than making a kink. |
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| Drop Top |
Posted: Apr 26 2004, 06:36 AM
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Guest S2KI User #: 3662 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 213 days PPD Average: 0.4 Owner 2001 Silverstone/Red Houston |
What does the OEM weigh?
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| ImportSport |
Posted: Apr 26 2004, 06:42 AM
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Moderator S2KI User #: 32559 S2KI Age: 6 yrs 10 days PPD Average: 3.2 Owner 2001 Berlina Black/Black Minneapolis, MN |
I actually thought that mandrel bending used the same process that you mentioned Macgyver.
Learn sumfin new everyday  --------------------
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| gernby |
Posted: Apr 26 2004, 06:46 AM
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Member S2KI User #: 8217 S2KI Age: 7 yrs 339 days PPD Average: 3.1 Owner 2008 GrandPrix White/Red McKinney, TX |
It that were the case, the inner diameter of the pipe would be reduced by the bend. -------------------- Current S2000: '08 GPW with Red/Black interior, OEM front lip, OEM rear wing, 18" Work Meister 3pc wheels, Koni Yellow Shocks, PWJDM Intake, T1R Response Header, T1R Test Pipe, Hondata FlashPro, Hondata Intake Manifold Gasket, Denso IK24 Spark Plugs, '03 Clutch Slave Cylinder, J's higher pressure radiator cap, Gates higher temp thermostat, JVC KD-AVX44 DVD Head Unit. Previous S2000: '02 Suzuka Blue, Rick's 4.77 Gears and Yellow Box, Custom Wideband Fuel / VTEC Controller, Custom Test Pipe, Innovative Motorsports LM-1 Wideband O2 Controller / Datalogger, AEM CAI w/ Insulator Sleeve, Hondata Manifold Insulator / Spacer, Mugen Thermostat, Fan Switch, Rad. Cap, Denso IK24 Spark Plugs, Digrappa X-Brace, Muz 30mm Solid Front Sway Bar, JIC FLT-A2 Coilovers 
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| AP1ByDesign |
Posted: Apr 26 2004, 09:56 AM
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Guest S2KI User #: 30365 S2KI Age: 6 yrs 115 days PPD Average: 1.6 Owner 2001 Silverstone/Black (818) |
Am I mistaken, or does this header look similar to a Mugen design???
btw, it looks real good, I would definitely be interested if the numbers are right... -------------------- 
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| dave22 |
Posted: Apr 26 2004, 10:01 AM
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Guest S2KI User #: 7469 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 8 days PPD Average: 4.5 Owner 2001 Berlina Black/Red Virginia Beach, VA |
har har -------------------- Dave <---------I tasered that gnome like ten times... 
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| kitwetzler |
Posted: Apr 26 2004, 10:14 AM
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Member S2KI User #: 5742 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 102 days PPD Average: 1.4 Owner 2008 Chicane/Synchro Silver/Black Sunnyvale |
uh, he said mandrel bends? -------------------- 06 M5, 09 335i, 08 s2000 
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| Asura |
Posted: Apr 26 2004, 10:19 AM
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Asura Design S2KI User #: 3712 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 211 days PPD Average: 3 Owner 2002 Moon Rock/Race Stripped Anaheim, Orange County |
That looks amazing. Can't wait for the dyno plot. Too bad I aleady have a Toda header. If this has more gains, I could be persuaded to ditch the Toda.
Do you have baselines for the car you plan on using for the dyno testing? -------------------- Asura...Tel:714-632-8723 Email:.sales@asuradesign.com -3" Dual Exhaust GB--Monoball Suspension--MUGEN HEADLINER- MADE IN THE USA S2000..TUNING..EXHAUST..SUSPENSION..ENGINES..RACING PARTS AEM Certified Tuner. SoCal Dyno Tuning and Horsepower building AEM, Hondata, MoTec Tuning, Engine-building and Racing. Dyno-Tuning and Built by Asura 2008 SCCA ITE and ITR 1ST PLACE OVERALL!!!!!! Isabella '02 Sebring/Red -the Phantom- Miliana '02 Sebring/Blk -Daily grinding Sophie '03 Berlina/TIGed - Silent but deadly... Samantha '00 Silverstone/Bllk-Red- Retired 
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| gernby |
Posted: Apr 26 2004, 10:22 AM
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Member S2KI User #: 8217 S2KI Age: 7 yrs 339 days PPD Average: 3.1 Owner 2008 GrandPrix White/Red McKinney, TX |
Right. Mandrel bends do NOT have a decreased inner diameter. |
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