The Official "MOD to Stay Away From"

We've all been there. We buy products that seemed great at the time. We thought about it. Read about it. Slept on it. The idea of spending $$$ was well worth it... at the time. Until weeks later, then it hits you... WTF was I thinking? This isn't worth the money!

So, IF you had to start all over again, which mod would you stay away from?

WisconsinS2k That d00d is nutz.

intake, vafc, test pipe, exhaust. i should of just gone boost in the first place instead of buying little mods.

after modding two cars prior to this, i already learned all about doing it right the first time..cause you pay for it in the end. good thread idea though. i think a lot of people modify their car to reflect their own tastes and personality. while i'm sure there are certain mods everyone should stay away from, you and i of course know not everyone does

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This post has been edited by jeggy on Nov 1 2006, 05:44 PM

In a turbocharged car, or just certain turbocharged cars...I would definitely stay away from boost controllers and all of these new parts that people seldomly BLOW their engines with. I'm not exactly sure how it works on a turbo'd S...but on my WRX and STi, those were the worst possible mods I could have thought of. '

I haven't done enough mods to my S to really tell you...but I bought it with an electronic exhaust diverter or "butterfly" valve. That thing is a piece of garbage, and I ripped half of it out of my cat. I still have some of it left, and the rest is all technical. You can bet that the entire thing is going bye-bye when I put my AP2 console on

lol is this a commercial post? i would never put those things in my car

I rarely buy anything on impulse, and am more likely to reasearch something to death than I am to buy something I don't understand. I've been lucky with the S2000, and all the mods have met or exceeded my expectations. The car is in a state right not that I find so appealing that I really hate to change anything else. If I had it all to do over again, I'd follow the same path, but it would be easier the second time around.

LOL, maybe I just haven't made enough mods to be dissatisfied.

I don't reccomend any body modifications that result from a colision with any other object. They suck.

First off AMEN to that bro i have no clue why ppl did it waste like 1k-2k on stuff that will give you an extra 10-25 whp and I'm being generous with 25whp.
I guess to each his own.


Second Great thread idea, let me think what i've done and regret it now..
Getting the GReddy ems. Should've just brought the aem ems from the get go.
Which i did and just sold the GReddy ems for 100 bucks. Lost 200 dollars on it.

Marcus

That's true for me, too, for major things, at least.

But I'm a sucker for little things, those creature comfort gadgets that go in the cockpit to "help" you with one thing or another. Maybe these don't really count as "modifications", so I won't list my follies here, but I will suggest applying the same level (or at least SOME level) of research to the little things as well as to FI and exhausts and body kits -- and other biggies.

That way, you'll wind up wasting less money and you'll help keep the local landfill from overflowing. I speak from experience here HPH

Avoid all modifications and you will live in bliss. No hassels from cops, no smog problems, less warrantee problems. etc. All that extra money to spend on fun stuff.

While I understand the logic and reasoning behind your opinion, I respectfully dissent. Financially, FI is the logical way to go for massive whp/tq, but I also view it as sort of cheating.

I enjoy the challenge the F series presents to those seeking to enhance and improve upon an already fantastic motor, without resorting to FI. If I were to simply bolt on a supercharger, I think I would lose some interest in the car because the motor would be "complete." I will never go FI because I view my car as a continuing work in progress. I hope there never comes a day when I feel that I have "completed" my car.

-Will

I don't know how you can possibly say:"If I were to simply bolt on a supercharger, I think I would lose some interest in the car because the motor would be "complete."
The addition of a supercharger creates a whole additional area of playing around in addition to the base car. I don't know anyone that feels "complete" with the addition of FI but rather a feeling of being released from the S2000 limits or freed up.

"I will never go FI because I view my car as a continuing work in progress." Is this what you really ment?

If it is, let me tell you from personal experience increased NA rwhp is not all that it is made out to be. I was putting down 240+ rwhp prior to boosting. More will always be better, especially if you are putting up with those pesky '07 Shelby GT 500s, 996tts, C6Z06s and Ford GTs just to mention a few.

Yeah FI starts a whole new ball game. I recently sold my boosted b16 civic for my S. I got tired of being scared to drive long trips, and scared of the reliablity. I also got tired of going fast on the street and in striaght lines.

I got the S, and for a few years all I will do is "waste" my money on an intake, exhaust, etc. Not everyone wants to go balls out fast, been there done that. The S is a lot slower than my civic. But I can deal with it, only time it hurts is some weekends out with the boosted frends haha.

My opinion on buying the small stuff instead of just stepping up and going FI is that FI is a big step. It takes a lot of initial investment, and for good reward as well. But if you consider at least 5k for a supercharger...that is a hard amount to save up for ONE mod...while a major, and car changing mod. Still just one mod.

Its typically easier for people to buy little things here and there and see slight changes along the way and be perfectly happy.

Also, the car is pretty quick stock, not terribly fast, but it is faster then most cars on the road.

I just had a single exhaust/intake/test pipe/ and AEM EMS (which is for sale btw ) on my car and made ~220whp. Now I'm selling all of that stuff, not because I am dissatisfied, but because it is not what I want from this car. I want mods that will improve my driveability and comfort, and mid range power; without being noisy, ugly, obnoxious, etc. And now that I have a 4.57 rear gear set, that alone makes me faster then my 220whp mods did all together. I guess that is my reasoning why I'll spend money again on smaller things to get a little bump in hp rather then just saving up for the SC, which I would like. I guess I don't see a personal need for an SC at this time yet as I'm sure with 4.57's and a good mid range gain I'll be pretty happy. Like I said, if you don't have an EMS yet, you can buy mine, check sig.

Now as for a mod I have purchased and tell people they should stay away from? hmm...after a few minutes of thinking...I honestly can't think of one.

A boost controller works the same on every turbo'd car out there, they simply raise boost above what your wastegate spring could do on its own. Whether its manual or electronic, they do the same job for the most part, but they are only dangerous if you do not tune for the higher boost levels. More boost without fuel is a pretty big mistake.

STAY AWAY FROM THIS!!








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Thanks for your insight. I am removing my foot from my mouth now

... wandering back to the original topic.


The mod I regret is Toda camshafts. The first set disentegrated. The replacement set makes less power than the stock camshafts.

In a way, I currently regret buying my Amuse R1000, simply because it's currently sitting in a corner of my garage, but if I ever start seriously tracking the car again, I'll put it back on.

Of course it's the same on every car, but when you own a car like an STi that's at 14.5psi stock, raising boost can be a huge problem. That's all I was saying.

That's true for me, too, for major things, at least.

But I'm a sucker for little things, those creature comfort gadgets that go in the cockpit to "help" you with one thing or another. Maybe these don't really count as "modifications", so I won't list my follies here, but I will suggest applying the same level (or at least SOME level) of research to the little things as well as to FI and exhausts and body kits -- and other biggies.

That way, you'll wind up wasting less money and you'll help keep the local landfill from overflowing. I speak from experience here HPH

Researching something before buying it allows more time for anticipation, and anticipation is a big part of the fun of getting something new. Whether it's an investment or a gadget, I enjoy digging out the information needed to make an informed choice. I'm probably way too anal about it, but it's almost always fun to try to figure out the best choice among many.

i regret buying a single exhaust , aftermarket ecu , header and intake. Because when i think about the money i spent it feels stupid.

I wish i bought sc or turbo .

i regret buying.... i regret buying.... hmmmm.... nevermind.