Mr2 pretty fast for an old car?

^ Both are two seat sport cars for niche buyers, which most S2000 owners are by owning one.

i actually raced a modded turbo one back when i had my g35coupe. He pulled about 2 cars in front after about 100. those little toyos are quick

here is a fast MR2
http://videos.streetfire.net/hottestvideos...016680CF47D.htm

so who else doesn't miss working on their mr2 and looking for upgraded parts?

actually berk and a few other tuner manufacturers have stepped up to the modding scene making a lot of the parts more affordable. not to mention the v6 swap is starting to become big.

Changing the Valve cover and spark plug gaskets took about 1 hours for me to perform on my MR2 Turbo. I don't miss that. It's not as hard to work on as most 6 cylinder sport cars but compared to working on the S2K it's a nightmare.

A stock MR2, even the turbo, doesn't stand a chance against an S2000.

Stock vs stock, theyre close. If the s2000 owner doenst know how to drive they could lose.

How is that? They are a high 14 second car. I suppose you could say if the S2k driver doesn't even know what a clutch is then they would win, but that's just rediculous. They are the same weight and put about 30 less hp down to the wheels.

try changing the turbo. =(

off the line the mr2 will win but at higher speeds the s2k will win.

Umm, the stock MR2 turbo puts an extra 50 ft lbs of torque down as an S2000 and the MR2 weighs as much as 50 lbs less than an S2000. It's believable. I'd bet on an MR2 turbo to beat an S2000 from 0-60 given equal drivers, but the S2000 would pull away in 3rd gear. I owned an MR2 turbo for 2 years before I bought the S.

Mag racing sucks, but all of them put the S2k a good half second faster to 60mph than an MR2 Turbo.

Torque doesn't matter as long as both cars launch in their powerband. If you want to race from 1-30mph then sure the MR2 might win, but that's why cars a supposed to be launched. Even then the little bit of turbo lag from taking off so slow would still mean that it doesn't get much of a jump.

The published curb weight for the MR2 is 2822, which is what I'm going to go by since with that there could be too many variables. My S2k with 3/4 tank of gas weighs 2760, but I'll stick to the published 2800lbs.

1/4 mile time differences are almost a full second, so I wouldn't put any bets on an MR2. Where are the facts to back up that an MR2 can beat an S2k in any conditions? I'm talking stock.

This post has been edited by Spartikus on Nov 14 2006, 01:25 PM

I had my MR2 on a set of scales once and it was around 2750 lbs. The 91 and 92's were a bit lighter than the 93-95's.

How many S2K owners are going to launch their cars from 6K rpms? Not I. I don't really want to replace clutches on a monthly basis.

Oh I see. So if one car is driven slower than it should be then there's another car that is faster. I could want to avoid VTEC because it sounds like the car will break, so does that mean that Pintos are faster?

Just pointing out that that's a poor way of comparing two car's acceleration.

This post has been edited by Spartikus on Nov 14 2006, 01:49 PM

That was pretty funny dude.

Of course the Pintos are faster, S2K's have no torque!

I think you raced my cousin. (calling him right now to confirm.)

BTW I used to have a 2 also. great little car and the steering is almost as fun as the S but the non power steering just raped my arms while trying to drive around in the parking lots. But it was a great work out though and made me mega buff!

haha, what a small world though. talked to him and he said he did race an S a few days ago.

Watch out though, he's putting a rebuilt 3rd Gen engine in with a new turbo and is cranking up the boost! Now I lose my bragging rights.

This post has been edited by s2k_dreams on Nov 14 2006, 03:33 PM

i had a 91 turbo before my Evo as well. it was such a fun car. i had fcd, evc II @ 15 psi, and hks intake/dp...propelling wheels and turbo both spinning behind my ears...damn it was such joy to drive it around.

i will pick another one up very quickly, however i plan to drop a v6 this time around

never ran the s2000 when i had the mr2 because my shifter was a bit messed up (most upshifts near redline would take 5 seconds to get into), but it was a pretty quick car. i was also amazed that for a 15 year old car, it drove way smoother than my former 2001 integra GSR. overall i just loved the car a lot.

LOL, S2k dreams you own an S and used to own a 2 , thats it i got to get one too. thanks for all the feedback.

MR2 turbo is not a high 14 second car stock. Low 14's, 0-60 times were a tad close. But s2000 IS faster in both... just not by alot. Maybe the NA MR2 was high 14 low 15s stock.

Like I said, I'm just going off of mag times. The n/a MR2 is a 16 second car. I somehow doubt, as innacurate as they are, that a mag driver would end up driving a car a full second slower than it is, especially considering that it makes 135hp at the crank.

The turbo ones put down around 170whp, so in a ~2800lb car mid 14's is believable. Again, the mag times put the 0-60 for the turbo at 6.1 seconds while the notoriously difficult to drive to its full potential S2k is at 5.5 seconds. .6 seconds is not close at all.

I'm definitely not knocking the MR2, I like them very much, but I'm just sticking to the facts on what a stock one will run. It's not close enough to even consider it a drivers race. It might "feel" almost as fast since boost tends to have that effect, but it just isn't.

That would be a NEGATIVE. Unless those S2000 drivers couldn't drive at all or your MR2 had major weight reduction, both in stock trims, MR2 wouldn't keep up.

Yep, I sold mine to buy my S. It definitely is a step up, but I still kinda miss the 2.

i miss the mr2!

yeah andy told me about it.

what a coincidence, we didnt even get to run him yet

I owned a '93 turbo mister 2 as well for several years... I had the small upgrades: I/E, boost controller, but the thing was a monster when tuned correctly. I scared a lot of V8's (remember this was the mid 1990's) with that thing.

I also found out that it didn't handle that well at high speeds and totalled it in a scary accident...

By the way I saw one run in the 11's the other day at the track!!!

MR2 was a great car!

I must say that there was nothing like sitting in front of both the intake AND the turbo. I had the HKS suction intake on mine... WOW what a sound it made! For a car that ran 6.1 0-60 and mid 14 on qtr mile... keep in mind it was doing that on 6-7psi which is nothing for that car. Raise it to 14-15psi... 16 psi with racing gas and that car will raise hell. I personally both the mKII-T and the s2000!

This post has been edited by Dolemike on Nov 16 2006, 12:16 PM