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Arnell |
Posted: Mar 8 2002, 05:33 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 1494 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 186 days PPD Average: 0 Owner 2004 Silverstone/Red Phoenix ![]() |
I realize this is a long post but I tried to be detailed and included pics of everthing. The image limit (which I can't seem to locate!?!) is making me do this in multiple posts. In any case, I hope it's helpful.
First off let me thank S2K0, SilverStreak, MKH, JerryPeterson, and others for their posts and suggestions. This would have been much harder without them. Required items:
* I could not find amber 7440 bulbs locally and the bulbs I ordered from LightLens.com turned out to be dual brightness bulbs that were slightly different than 7440 bulbs. So, I used MKH's method and colored the stock bulbs with an orange Sharpie! There are several online retailers (some listed below) that sell replacement bulbs and I found similar bulbs at PepBoys (they would probably fit the 7440 socket but they were not the exact same bulb). ** I could not find amber 168 bulbs locally. However, 194 bulbs are the same design, are available in amber, and are supposedly brighter. I found these at several auto parts retailers and they work just fine. Sources for replacement bulbs: ClearTailLights.com LightLens.com MatrixMotorsport.com ImportTrader.com AutoBulbDepot.com Helpful items:
Note: I've indicated names of certain components from the Helm manual in quotes. To see the pictures in full size just click on them. Step 1: Remove front bumper. (The order of removing the bolts is extremely important and should be followed exactly! Just kidding - just make sure you get all the bolts off before attempting to detach bits.) There are 5 screws and 13 bolts to remove in order to detach the front bumper... Use a phillips head screwdriver to remove the five black bolts holding the "front bumper upper stiffener". Pic 1 - numbered 1 through 5. Use the 10mm socket to remove the two bolts fastened to the fender. Pic 2 - numbered 6 and 7 (not shown but in same location as 6 on opposite side). Use the 10mm socket to remove the nine bolts holding the bumper onto the "front under cover" and "inner fender". Pic 3 - numbered 8 through 16. Use the 8mm socket to remove the two screws on the inside of the wheel well. Pic 4 - numbered 17 and 18 (not shown but in same location as 17 on opposite side). Pull the bumper off by disengaging it from the four hooks under the headlights and the two hooks under the fenders. See Pic 6 for the location of the hooks circled in red. This simply requires some tugging on each side of the bumper. (The foam "absorber" may fall out when the bumper is free. It fits onto the "front bumper beam" via two round stubs.) Step 2: Remove headlight assemblies. Disconnect all the electrical connections to the headlight assembly. There are four. Use the 10mm socket to remove the two bolts holding the headlight assembly to the fender. Pic 5 - numbered 1 and 2. Detach the "corner upper beam" by removing the four 10mm bolts in Pic 6 - numbered 3, 4, 6, and 7. Use the 10mm socket to remove the two bolts holding the headlight assembly to the fender. Pic 6 - numbered 5 and 8. The bolt numbered 5 will require an extension on the socket wrench as it is somewhat hidden between the fender wall and the metal brace under the headlight. Remove the headlight assembly by maneuvering it around the various connection points. Then look at what you've done to your S2000... Continued... -------------------- '00 Silver/Red #4340 SOLD! '04 Silver/Red #???? |
bayarea408 |
Posted: Mar 8 2002, 06:07 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 6429 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 267 days PPD Average: 1.6 Owner 2001 Silverstone/Red Bay Area ![]() |
very informative
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darkknight1999 |
Posted: Mar 8 2002, 06:26 PM
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Member![]() S2KI User #: 2703 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 86 days PPD Average: 3.3 Owner 2002 Suzuka/Nurburgring Blue/Blue Boston, MA ![]() |
Great Job!!
I'll be doing ours in about a week+/- and this will be a great help. Thanks -DK -------------------- -JOHN "Pumping lots of bass to a tweeter is like stuffing a basketball into a pigeon—neither will survive" - ME-Mag
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moonpie |
Posted: Mar 8 2002, 08:20 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 5319 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 331 days PPD Average: 0.5 Owner 2002 /Black Melbourne ![]() |
Very good post. You must have spent a lot of time composing and readying the pictures for it - thanks
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Utah S2K |
Posted: Mar 8 2002, 08:49 PM
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Community Organizer![]() S2KI User #: 902 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 249 days PPD Average: 1 Owner 2001 Silverstone/Black Ogden ![]() |
Great work.....I PM'd you about making a FAQ out of this. You covered the basics but we still need specifics on thew Amber Bulb to use? And how to paint it to allow the light to shine through. Great work and photos....the FAQ is 75% there.....
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SuzukaS2K |
Posted: Mar 8 2002, 09:00 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 6875 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 240 days PPD Average: 0.8 Owner 2002 Suzuka/Nurburgring Blue/Blue Ellicott City ![]() |
Here is my sample............
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speed4tu |
Posted: Mar 8 2002, 09:01 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 5324 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 331 days PPD Average: 1.2 Owner 2002 Sebring Silver/Red Greenville, NC ![]() |
This is very informative. Thanks.
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Arnell |
Posted: Mar 8 2002, 09:13 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 1494 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 186 days PPD Average: 0 Owner 2004 Silverstone/Red Phoenix ![]() |
The bulb to replace the 7440 turn signal bulb is definately more difficult to get in amber than the running light. As I stated in the "How To" I simply used an orange Sharpie to color the stock one (thanks MKH for the idea). Not the most elegant solution but it worked. I did not try fitting the so called 7440 bulbs I recieved from LightLens because there were obvious differences to the stock 7440 bulbs. Some of those other links to online retailers sold amber 7440 bulbs but were pricey. And given the experience I had with LightLens.com it's hard to tell if they are the same as the stock. Maybe somebody else has ordered 7440 bulbs that are the same as stock??? |
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majestik |
Posted: Mar 8 2002, 11:25 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 8103 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 185 days PPD Average: 0 Owner 2002 Berlina Black/Red Elk Grove ![]() |
torque wrench needed for this project? also, is it facing up or down when baking? much props. thanks for the instructions!
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Arnell |
Posted: Mar 9 2002, 12:18 AM
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Guest S2KI User #: 1494 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 186 days PPD Average: 0 Owner 2004 Silverstone/Red Phoenix ![]() |
I didn't use a torque wrench but the Helm manual does indicate amount of torque to apply to some of the bolts (just the ones for the bumper - not the headlight assembly).
I don't think the way the headlight sits in the oven matters. Just put it on the damp towel so it won't tip over and accidentally touch some hot metal in the oven. |
restonS2000 |
Posted: Mar 9 2002, 04:28 AM
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Guest S2KI User #: 2589 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 92 days PPD Average: 0.1 Owner 2000 Reston ![]() |
Do you still need the oven in Phoenix? Say August timeframe -------------------- '01 Silver/Red |
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Arnell |
Posted: Mar 9 2002, 10:25 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 1494 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 186 days PPD Average: 0 Owner 2004 Silverstone/Red Phoenix ![]() |
Good point. In the summer months in Phoenix it's probably possible to put the headlight on the sidewalk for 20 minutes and get the same result! |
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majestik |
Posted: Mar 10 2002, 12:15 AM
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Guest S2KI User #: 8103 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 185 days PPD Average: 0 Owner 2002 Berlina Black/Red Elk Grove ![]() |
I forgot the mention this. You said to get (2) 7440 bulbs and (2) 168 bulbs. I'm not sure what part you are refering to. So there is two bulbs under the amber or did you replace the other bulbs as well? If you did replace the other bulbs outside the amber why? I don't know whats under there yet, so your response would be great. Sorry for my lack of knowledge. Planning to start tommorow. Thanks.
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Arnell |
Posted: Mar 10 2002, 12:08 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 1494 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 186 days PPD Average: 0 Owner 2004 Silverstone/Red Phoenix ![]() |
Hope this is in time to help you out... Both the 168 and 7440 bulbs are under the amber diffuser. The running light is the smaller bulb in the bottom section under the amber diffuser. It has the 168 designation. (I noted above, though, that the 194 designated bulb works too.) The turn signal light is the larger bulb in the upper section under the amber diffuser. It thas the 7440 designation. I did not try other bulbs for this socket and simply colored the stock 7440 bulb. |
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majestik |
Posted: Mar 10 2002, 12:10 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 8103 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 185 days PPD Average: 0 Owner 2002 Berlina Black/Red Elk Grove ![]() |
i'm doing bumper removal right now. you noted to tug the bumper off. is this a upward motion? seems like something is stopping me from removing it in the areas under the headlights. i loosened the fender hooks, but seem to have problems under the headlight. thanks again.
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majestik |
Posted: Mar 10 2002, 01:22 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 8103 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 185 days PPD Average: 0 Owner 2002 Berlina Black/Red Elk Grove ![]() |
Ha ha. Man I had to jerk that bumper off. I got it off. Thanks.
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majestik |
Posted: Mar 10 2002, 07:59 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 8103 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 185 days PPD Average: 0 Owner 2002 Berlina Black/Red Elk Grove ![]() |
I started today and so far so good. I haven't completed the project because I got caught up on the game (NBA). I will finish up tommorow if I can find those light bulbs. I'm thinking all clear bulbs. Well I took some digital photos. They are not perfect so excuse my skills on this one.
Phase One: http://www.roxspin.com/images/headlights/mavica.htm I will take more pictures for the final product. Arnell, very good instructions thanks! By the way, you are right about the alcohol. I'm sipping on a beer after the hard work. |
Utah S2K |
Posted: Mar 10 2002, 08:15 PM
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Community Organizer![]() S2KI User #: 902 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 249 days PPD Average: 1 Owner 2001 Silverstone/Black Ogden ![]() |
Arnell can't thank you enough for this thread.......FAQ material Schatten....do your job bro!!!! Matt 25 and I started at 12:15 PM today.....Ira came a few minute later for moral suport... and finished at 7:00 PM. If I were to do it again I'd go with 15 minutes in the oven preheated to 225. Did that with the second light and the sucker peeled right back. First was at 225 for 10 minutes and it was a MF'er.....put back in oven. Only other comment would be to bake it at 100 degrees for a few minutes (10) after it's put back together....turn signal and high bulb's removed. Turn the opening up so moisture will vent out. The damp towel is great but introduces some moisture which needs to be driven out in a final heat cycle. I set the lights (one at a time) on a couple of hot mitts at 100 degrees. As for the bumper......when you know all the bolts are out....lift and pull!!!!! Scared the S*** out of me too! But when it comes loose....cool!!!!!!
I was gonna write an FAQ on this but Arnell has done a better job of describing the mod then I ever could. Follow hios directions and you are 90% there.......... Thanks again Arnell!!!!!! Utah |
majestik |
Posted: Mar 10 2002, 08:31 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 8103 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 185 days PPD Average: 0 Owner 2002 Berlina Black/Red Elk Grove ![]() |
True about the baking it longer, but I was a chicken $hit to bake it any longer. I just peeled it out. But yeah, follow the instructions and make you own adjustments if needed. Its pretty acurate! Good instructions.
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MattH25 |
Posted: Mar 10 2002, 09:11 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 5698 S2KI Age: 8 yrs 309 days PPD Average: 0.6 Owner 2002 Sebring Silver/Black Ogden ![]() |
Arnell did a hell of a job writing up this guide. If it wasn't for him UtahS2k and I would probably still be trying to get the bumper off:p It looks great though (especially on Silverstone) and suprisingly enough is not that hard of a mod. Just very labor intensive and time consuming. Like Utah said, this took us a good 7 hours so plan on a whole day affair for this. I will promise you this though that if you do it right you won't regret it one bit. The car looks absolutely amazing with it done. I think I'm next:D
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Nside |
Posted: Mar 10 2002, 11:36 PM
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Member S2KI User #: 2020 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 136 days PPD Average: 0.1 Owner 2000 Silverstone/Black Grand Rapids |
I wouldn't do all clear bulbs, but that's just me. I'm going to do it with orange painted silver bulbs... |
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Arnell |
Posted: Mar 11 2002, 12:19 AM
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Guest S2KI User #: 1494 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 186 days PPD Average: 0 Owner 2004 Silverstone/Red Phoenix ![]() |
Thanks for all the comments. Schatten and Utah both asked if they could use the post to make an FAQ. I told them they could use it in any way that will help. I'm glad I could contribute to the board.
I agree it could use some fine-tuning with some of the suggestions from others. Once that is done it should be 100%! (Utah and Schatten, I'll update it if you'd like - let me know.) By the way, did anybody catch my Monty Python reference (Holy Hand Grenade)? I don't know why it came to me when I wrote the post. |
bbsilver |
Posted: Mar 18 2002, 10:15 AM
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Guest S2KI User #: 138 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 327 days PPD Average: 0.3 Owner 2000 Sebring Silver/Red San Jose ![]() |
We just did our's on Saturday. Things to note:
How did we come up with this? Kind of funny. We were doing the brute force of a heat gun and bending the plastic back. Someone had a bright idea of putting it in the oven. We had it at 200 and it worked fine when we pryed. We turn it up to 225 to speed it up a bit. We had some hambergers on the grill and forgot about the light. When we pulled the light out it just fell apart. Much less work. No damage to the light. Very clean. -------------------- Brent Biggs
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M3KVB |
Posted: Mar 18 2002, 07:05 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 3188 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 74 days PPD Average: 0.1 Owner 2000 Silverstone/Black AUSTIN ![]() |
Here are a couple photos of my cleared lights with the amber turnsignals painted silver and the clear LED running light that turns amber when lit!
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