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parkerdw |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 07:09 AM
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Member S2KI User #: 1116 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 20 days PPD Average: 0.1 Owner 2000 Silverstone/Red Philadelphia ![]() |
I finally noticed an increasingly strong smell of exhaust in the engine bay. To be honest, I think I have been in denial for the last few weeks, but the harsh sounding engine note and the fact the air conditioner started to pull in exhaust fumes at an alarming rate made me take the car back to my tuner. The reason I never saw it was my manifold and downpipe are tightly heat wrapped. The tuner pulled off the wrap and revealed a huge crack right down the center of the manifold all the way from where it contacts the engline block all the way back to the turbo.
We have already contacted Greddy and it "looks" like they will send me a new manifold but they have to wait to hear back from Japan first. The tuner took a few pics and emailed them to greddy, and you will find these pix below. I only had the turbo on about 3 weeks of daily driving and never did anything particularly foolhardy with the car. I just treated it like I usually do, which is granny driving punctuated with random vtec runs. I am very disappointed that they sent me an obviously flawed manifold. The kit even comes with heat wrap, so its not like I put heat wrap on there against their design recommendations. The car has been driving like crap for a few weeks, and it has been getting steadily worse. The heat wrap kept most of the exhaust from escaping through the crack which is why it took so long for me to finally realize what was going on. I believe this is a tubular manifold and they plan to replace it with a cast manifold. Is this is a common problem with this type of manifold? This is my first experience with a turbo car and I'm very, very annoyed that something like this happened to me. The whole reason I chose the greddy turbo was to have a mildy boosted "reliable" car and not have any turbo "horror" stories to share with anybody. Guess I failed. That being said, when the car was running well it was a great experience so I have no intention of giving up so easily. The car is out of service for a few weeks until I can get a properly constructed manifold from Greddy but I just view this as one of the risks of being an early adopter. Stuff like this can happen with new product. I just never thought it would happen to me though. |
Spec_Ops2087 |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 07:21 AM
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Member S2KI User #: 29495 S2KI Age: 6 yrs 150 days PPD Average: 3.9 Owner 2002 Sebring Silver/Black New Jersey ![]() |
Unfortunatly thats not all to uncommon for tubular manifolds.
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sparrow |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 07:25 AM
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SIIK2NR |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 07:26 AM
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passmans2kny |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 07:33 AM
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Guest S2KI User #: 53549 S2KI Age: 4 yrs 52 days PPD Average: 1.4 Owner 2004 Silverstone/Black huntington long island ![]() |
dam 3 weeks, I'd be pissed, and i thought that tubular one from greddy looks pretty nice(guess not), get that cracked mani pic up on here, good luck
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nearwater4me |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 08:04 AM
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Guest S2KI User #: 58056 S2KI Age: 3 yrs 283 days PPD Average: 1.9 Owner 2007 Silverstone/Black-Red ![]() |
wow.. I had a lot of faith in Greddy, and all I hear is issues, problems.
I guess it's something that early stage kits have to go thru before Greddy solves all these little bugs. Hope they send you a revised manifold. Dan -------------------- |
dans2k |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 08:50 AM
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Member![]() S2KI User #: 40902 S2KI Age: 5 yrs 87 days PPD Average: 0.4 Owner 2004 Silverstone/Black-Red SoCal ![]() |
This is the reason why I Bought the Comptech SC instead of TURBO.
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Spoolin |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 08:57 AM
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Member![]() S2KI User #: 21406 S2KI Age: 6 yrs 334 days PPD Average: 1.2 Owner 2002 Sebring Silver/Black Sellersburg, IN ![]() |
You wouldn't be saying that if you ever road in a turbo'ed S. One thing you never want to do with a tubular manifold is wrap it. The wrap holds in too much heat and the steel soaks too much of that heat up which can cause cracking. If you want a good heat barrier that will help the life of a good tubular manifold, your best bet is to go with a good heat coating like Jet Hot 2000. The inside and outside are coated which helps keep the heat from soaking into the steel. -------------------- -581 whp 440 tq @ 25 psi on 110 octane. -LoveFab GT1 manifold (Jet Hot coated) and 3" DP, T3/T4 Precision 6262sp turbo, AEM EMS, AEM boost solenoid, AEM 3.5 bar MAP sensor, Innovate XD-1 standalone wideband O2, RC1000cc injectors, AEM injector driver, Full Blown twin pump fuel setup, Tial 44mm wastegate, Tial Q BOV, Inline-Pro 3mm HG(8.8:1 CR), Supertech built head, UR 3" dual exhaust, Inline-Pro diff. conversion, Inline-Pro 750 hp intercooler, custom IForged Aero wheels. Built engine, tranny and more boost coming soon.
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dans2k |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 11:42 AM
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Member![]() S2KI User #: 40902 S2KI Age: 5 yrs 87 days PPD Average: 0.4 Owner 2004 Silverstone/Black-Red SoCal ![]() |
Thanks for your Adviced. Yes I did.Infact,I bought a brand new BMW 335I coupe in Sep 2006 for my wife daily beater. Most Turbo S2000 will be faster than SCed,But not All. I'm sure that With my current set up with AEM EMS,650 Injectors and 3.5" pulley.Hopefully,I can smoke all stock Greddy Turbo. |
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brilliant |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 12:13 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 69422 S2KI Age: 2 yrs 303 days PPD Average: 0.5 Owner 2003 Silverstone/Black Huntington Beach, CA ![]() |
I think he said turbo'd s. not bmw. anyways, comptech cars are really fun too. def a lot of bugs to work out in these early stages. -------------------- Greddy Turbo'd, Aquamist HFS-1, HKS BOV, Greddy Profec II boost controller, Defi's, Greddy turbo timer, Work Emotion CR-Kai's, 70mm Greddy Ti-C Single, Invidia Test pipe, Koni yellows, Swift Sport Machs, JDM Clear Side Markers and front diffusers, OEM CR shift knob @12psi 303whp 256tq Tuned by Jon@HBSpeed
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laruei |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 01:22 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 65467 S2KI Age: 3 yrs 54 days PPD Average: 0.2 Owner 2004 Silverstone/Black-Red San Diego ![]() |
Exactly my thoughts. Well played sir. -------------------- Pretty much the only car i have ever wanted (bad enough to make a carpayment on), I own...and I live in San Diego...does it get better? Oh yeah, i need a turbo...lol ![]()
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c_me_go |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 02:04 PM
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Gold Member![]() S2KI User #: 31422 S2KI Age: 6 yrs 61 days PPD Average: 0.9 Owner 2001 New Formula Red/Black In The Pits ![]() |
PICS OR BAN!!!!
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s2000isu |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 03:22 PM
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Member S2KI User #: 62529 S2KI Age: 3 yrs 152 days PPD Average: 0.4 Owner 2001 Silverstone/Black ![]() |
I never heard anyone say to not wrap a manifold? The manifold I fabbed up for my other car went a year and a half of horrible abuse and was wrapped.
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Tyraid2K |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 04:43 PM
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pixorban
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Reagent |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 06:23 PM
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I have also heard horror stories of wrapped tubular manifolds. But tubular manis crack fairly often, wrapped or not. Which is why I want Greddy to come out with the cast mani before I buy the kit. I want reliability more than I want 5 more horsepower. Plus, the cast mani will quiet the exhaust to where I may be able to run without silencers in my cans. -------------------- ![]() |
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WashabiS2K |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 07:23 PM
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Chris_Lum |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 07:31 PM
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Member![]() S2KI User #: 62842 S2KI Age: 3 yrs 143 days PPD Average: 2.5 Owner 2004 Berlina Black/Black Irvine ![]() |
I have the new Cast manifold already. i'll post pics tomorrow. As said, this kind of thing is common for tubular manifolds. At least they will replace it free of charge.
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parkerdw |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 10:24 PM
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Member S2KI User #: 1116 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 20 days PPD Average: 0.1 Owner 2000 Silverstone/Red Philadelphia ![]() |
Sorry I have not been able to get pix of the crack up yet, but I can't find my digital camera after coming back from my trip. I'm going to have my tuner email me the pix tomorrow and I'll get them posted tomorrow night.
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brilliant |
Posted: Oct 31 2007, 10:47 PM
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Guest S2KI User #: 69422 S2KI Age: 2 yrs 303 days PPD Average: 0.5 Owner 2003 Silverstone/Black Huntington Beach, CA ![]() |
incorrect map. or at least i hope that is the problem.
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Enthralled |
Posted: Nov 1 2007, 12:07 AM
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s2kpnoy |
Posted: Nov 1 2007, 05:51 AM
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Gold Member S2KI User #: 53876 S2KI Age: 4 yrs 39 days PPD Average: 1.4 Owner 2001 Custom Color/Black ![]() |
HOw long did it take to get? Did you have to send your tubi mani in first before you received the cast mani? Is the cracked tubi mani in an isolated incident or should i expect my tubi mani to crack on my greddy kit? -------------------- AMUSE GT1 WIDEBODY Check out my 2010 amuse widebody build... http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showt...3100&st=175&hl= Check my fs thread, for various s2k parts: http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=649751&hl=
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cloudx71 |
Posted: Nov 1 2007, 06:04 AM
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Guest S2KI User #: 70102 S2KI Age: 2 yrs 284 days PPD Average: 0.5 Owner 2006 GrandPrix White/Black ![]() |
lol i dont think you should worry about your mani cracking, is yours head wrapped? Plus its impossible to tell if yours is going to crack, i guess it depends on who made your mani, but if your concered greddy might swap you manis.
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parkerdw |
Posted: Nov 1 2007, 07:53 AM
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Member S2KI User #: 1116 S2KI Age: 9 yrs 20 days PPD Average: 0.1 Owner 2000 Silverstone/Red Philadelphia ![]() |
I edited my original post with the pix of the crack. Enjoy!
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slimjim8201 |
Posted: Nov 1 2007, 08:06 AM
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Guest S2KI User #: 48700 S2KI Age: 4 yrs 204 days PPD Average: 1 Enthusiast Gießen, Hessen ![]() |
I wonder how many inlinepro manifolds have cracked?
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jwa4378 |
Posted: Nov 1 2007, 08:09 AM
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Guest S2KI User #: 46116 S2KI Age: 4 yrs 282 days PPD Average: 2.5 Owner 2000 Silverstone/Red Tallahassee, FL ![]() |
I wonder how many inlinepro manifolds are tubular? John -------------------- "Badges.....we don't need no stinking BADGES!"
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