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Old 02-19-2011, 01:59 PM   #1
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I drive very slowly until the car warms up. I avoid trying to grind gears, but it keeps happening to me. More on the Si than in the S2000.

8th Civic has a DIY, to adjust the clutch and fix the grind. As I was scrolling through our forums I also came across the following links:


http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=847071

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showt...0&#entry5612837

Has anyone on here ever tried this? What would be the pros & cons of doing this?

I have always been led to believe that a clutch must have a little play. Doing this fix may take care of the grind but leave you with absolutely no play in the clutch.

Your thoughts and opinions are welcome.
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I was planned on at least looking at adjusting the clutch play this spring.
I also read that changing the clutch fluid might help, but I have no idea how to do this.
My 2nd gear grind seems to go away after 5-15 mintues driving (depending on the temperature)
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I agree the grind goes away after the car has warmed up. When running cold I try to be extra cautious going from first to second and never rush the gear lever.

Sometimes I'm led to think it's probably my technique that is faulty. I always depress the clutch pedal fully, but when I hear a grind, my next thought is "did I press it in fully or not??"
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I have the same problem. Seems to be an ap2 issue. This spring I'm replacing the fluid and having an ap1 flywheel installed along with other stuff. Hopefully that will eliminate the grind.
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Had the 2nd gear grind if I got frisky going 1st to 2nd in a big hurry ONLY in my old 03.
The 07 had been perfect...
I do think the new MTL is good stuff.
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Replaced the MTF in the Si end of November. Grind still happens when I'm in a hurry.

Last night when I went out in the Si, I made sure each time I pressed the clutch in, it was all the way. Grind was still happening on the 1-2 shift when in a hurry.

With the S, it is smoother and not much of an issue once the engine warms up.

I think I'll try that fix described on the Si when its warmer and see if I like it any better. Must add though that I'm not comfortable moving the friction point way up to the top.
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I have never experienced this 2nd gear grind issue

FTR I run Honda MTF and change it twice annual whether I drive 5 miles or 5000 miles a season.
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^^^^Seems like overkill to me, but if it works for you...l
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Originally Posted by NNY S2k,Feb 20 2011, 03:09 PM
^^^^Seems like overkill to me, but if it works for you...l
No 2nd gear grind here and whats $10 and 10 minutes while Im doing an oil change? as much as I don't get all excited about my S and mods etc on here I will say that you will be hard pressed to find a better maintained one anywhere.

Not that you guys don't maintain yours as I know most of you do.
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The only problem with my 2nd gear is it will sometimes, albeit rarely, move itself into neutral with a loud popping noise upon deceleration below 20 mph. I've learned to just hold the lever in place in 2nd at low speeds. I run Honda MTFv2. Never experienced a grind, but I'm as cautious with my upshifts as I am with going down in the gearbox. Revmatching in both directions is a must otherwise the tranny is taking a beating.

Since the difference in ratios in the largest, changing gear from 1st to 2nd involves a significant drop in rpm. Maybe shifting slower into 2nd when the tranny is cold will alleviate the grind?
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