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Old 02-20-2011, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark355,Feb 20 2011, 05:53 PM
Painful to watch. Dude thinks he's on Best Motoring.
Turns out he responded to flames in such a bad way after people saw the video, that he was banned for a while from 8thCivic.


In any case I dont launch my car and am as ginger as can be to while going first to second. I'll have to be more wary though. Surely with the passage of time this will become a non-issue.


As far as popping out of gears goes. Happened on the Si first winter even though it was built after Honda had discovered and corrected the issue in older VINs. That 3rd gear pop-out has since disappeared as the tranny has broken-in.

On the S I had it pop out of 3rd once, but it was because I had pushed it with half the usual effort .

Dave - Skip shifting is perfectly ok if done the right way is what I've been told. Jackie Stewart recommends it in his book. Never skip shift on the way up but do a 5 to 3 if the corner (not this ) calls for it.
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Old 02-21-2011, 03:58 AM
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I had the 2nd gear grind till I changed the transmission fluid about 3 years into ownership. The grind (almost) disappeared.

Had the transmission fluid changed again last spring. It came back with a vengeance. Not only does it grind, but occasionally when cold, the transmission will literally pop out of 2nd gear. It is the only gear that does this.

Its all about the transmission fluid I think.
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Old 02-21-2011, 05:45 AM
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I changed to the newer version of Honda's MT fluid. No change, same grind when cold.
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Old 02-21-2011, 07:02 AM
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I wish wish wish wish wish wish wish wish wish I knew what fluid was used when I had it changed the first time. I know it made a huge difference.
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Old 02-21-2011, 07:10 AM
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If you order new synchros/gear sets for you AP1 they all supersed to the AP2 carbon coated syncros. I wish gearspeed would start selling them.
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Originally Posted by aashish2,Feb 20 2011, 08:07 PM

Dave - Skip shifting is perfectly ok if done the right way is what I've been told. Jackie Stewart recommends it in his book. Never skip shift on the way up but do a 5 to 3 if the corner (not this ) calls for it.
I respectfully Jackie did not drive nor do I believe he is speaking of modern transmissions with synchros of today.

This thread https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...ic=237209&st=0 talks about it in depth, the S seems to be different in regards to what we know about skip shifting.
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Very interesting. Under that scenario of winding out then coast shift to 5-6, I can see the problem. I was thinking about skipping shifts with main and counters at much more relaxed pace. Thanks for sharing this.

This seems to affect 5-6 dog/sleeve, so is independent of 2nd gear grind.

Cool read though.
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by zzziippyyy,Feb 21 2011, 01:59 PM
I respectfully Jackie did not drive nor do I believe he is speaking of modern transmissions with synchros of today.
He wrote the book in the late 80's - early 90's but that's besides the point. Done right (and I have seen people do it right) even shifting from 3rd to 1st will not wreck your tranny.


Out today on a very short drive and I made sure I was extremely patient shifting gears. Second engaged smoothly. I just have to give it that extra split second while the engine and tranny are yet to warm up.
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Old 02-21-2011, 03:31 PM
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^ As long as your happy with how you drive your vehicles that is all that matters.
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