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Sorry, not high quality audio and plenty of wind noise, but this is all I have. Volume got higher and sound got raspier. Plenty of rasp in the 3-5k range under load.
EDIT: Sorry! Forgot to mention this is the STR spec midpipe so it's missing some baffling! Thanks for catching that URGE!
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Originally Posted by Carbon Blue' timestamp='1457128626' post='23899424
Does anyone have a sound clip of how the gern pipe would sound like with OEM canisters? thanks.
Sorry, not high quality audio and plenty of wind noise, but this is all I have. Volume got higher and sound got raspier. Plenty of rasp in the 3-5k range under load.
Keep in mind this is an STR pipe which doesnt have as any sound damping in the expansion chamber. We had to use a narrower expansion chamber in order to me STR requirements for the Cat placement and thus no sound packing material. Regular Gernpipe will be a little quieter.
Here is a picture of his OEM exhaust welded into the STR gernpipe by his shop.
[attachment=92102:OEM Integration 1.JPG]
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Originally Posted by satoman44' timestamp='1457130870' post='23899452
[quote name='Carbon Blue' timestamp='1457128626' post='23899424']
Does anyone have a sound clip of how the gern pipe would sound like with OEM canisters? thanks.
Does anyone have a sound clip of how the gern pipe would sound like with OEM canisters? thanks.
Sorry, not high quality audio and plenty of wind noise, but this is all I have. Volume got higher and sound got raspier. Plenty of rasp in the 3-5k range under load.
Keep in mind this is an STR pipe which doesnt have as any sound damping in the expansion chamber. We had to use a narrower expansion chamber in order to me STR requirements for the Cat placement and thus no sound packing material. Regular Gernpipe will be a little quieter.
Here is a picture of his OEM exhaust welded into the STR gernpipe by his shop.
[attachment=92102:OEM Integration 1.JPG]
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Yikes! Sorry, forgot to mention it was the STR spec pipe! Edited my post above.
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That being said, we have had a few customers install on a turbo and one noted a dyno that reduced spool >500 RPM. We have not received the dyno yet, but must assume that this improvement would be with a higher VTEC point as the improved scavenging would reduce intake pressure during cam overlap. Essentially our mid pipe would help turbos below VTEC thus allowing you to keep a higher VTEC.
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Sorry for the bump but with the recent changes I think it would be nice to update this thread
Also while there's tons of items offered, tuning seems to be the one thing missing for the 00-05
Karcepts does have a great tune out the box, but now the E-Manage is being discontinued meaning less will be able to do it.
Also while there's tons of items offered, tuning seems to be the one thing missing for the 00-05
Karcepts does have a great tune out the box, but now the E-Manage is being discontinued meaning less will be able to do it.
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We do have lots of updates..
We finally have nailed cams for stock bottom or bolt on mod cars.
See results below, tuned stock bottom car vs tuned with cams at Church Automotive. Should be even better with stroker cars too.
So these are real cam results, not cam results with some tuning gains vs an untuned car.
We are cutting beta cams at a discount to get some customer dynos, 4 out of 5 have been spoken for.
We have also made an ultra light stroker kit.
32-34% less reciprocating weight than OEM, meaning lower forces on the crank than OEM 84mm at the same RPMs.
Even with narrower k24 rod bearings, slightly lower bearing pressures as OEM 84mm at same RPMs.
So 99mm stroker that can rev to 9K w better than OEM 84mm bearing pressures.
Other stroker kits typically have 30% higher bearing pressures meaning higher wear.
Also, we have made a dry sump with Dailey Engineering and test fit is perfect. We will be starting it up soon to confirm oil pressures.
It has an AC bracket, shield for the transmission and uses the internal oil return so you can use OEM filter saving money on external filter mount.
The drive gear runs off a fluidampr providing even more engine protection.
To match this dry sump, we created an integrated dual pass radiator, oil cooler and oil tank so you can mount the oil tank close to the engine.
With out this, you would have to mount the oil tank in the trunk or passenger compartment so you can keep all your oil lines short.
The Radiator is capable of supporting >600 HP according to manufacture. We are using the same HE core that solved the C7 ZR1 track overheating.
Plus a HE oil cooler as well. Will keep the motor running cool all the way around.
Finally, we have updated our ITBs to use the OEM fuel rail.
This reduces the $250, bring it under $2000 and simplifies the install so you can use OEM fuel lines. Makes it almost PnP.
You can also use OEM injectors up to 270 HP saving another $300-$500 for install.
If you do want upgraded injectors, use any stock replacement injectors.
On your question for tuning, we run the Hondata KPro for our 04. OBDII, Honda base maps.
Just need to swap out a few sensors or run a converter harness.
We finally have nailed cams for stock bottom or bolt on mod cars.
See results below, tuned stock bottom car vs tuned with cams at Church Automotive. Should be even better with stroker cars too.
So these are real cam results, not cam results with some tuning gains vs an untuned car.
We are cutting beta cams at a discount to get some customer dynos, 4 out of 5 have been spoken for.
We have also made an ultra light stroker kit.
32-34% less reciprocating weight than OEM, meaning lower forces on the crank than OEM 84mm at the same RPMs.
Even with narrower k24 rod bearings, slightly lower bearing pressures as OEM 84mm at same RPMs.
So 99mm stroker that can rev to 9K w better than OEM 84mm bearing pressures.
Other stroker kits typically have 30% higher bearing pressures meaning higher wear.
Also, we have made a dry sump with Dailey Engineering and test fit is perfect. We will be starting it up soon to confirm oil pressures.
It has an AC bracket, shield for the transmission and uses the internal oil return so you can use OEM filter saving money on external filter mount.
The drive gear runs off a fluidampr providing even more engine protection.
To match this dry sump, we created an integrated dual pass radiator, oil cooler and oil tank so you can mount the oil tank close to the engine.
With out this, you would have to mount the oil tank in the trunk or passenger compartment so you can keep all your oil lines short.
The Radiator is capable of supporting >600 HP according to manufacture. We are using the same HE core that solved the C7 ZR1 track overheating.
Plus a HE oil cooler as well. Will keep the motor running cool all the way around.
Finally, we have updated our ITBs to use the OEM fuel rail.
This reduces the $250, bring it under $2000 and simplifies the install so you can use OEM fuel lines. Makes it almost PnP.
You can also use OEM injectors up to 270 HP saving another $300-$500 for install.
If you do want upgraded injectors, use any stock replacement injectors.
On your question for tuning, we run the Hondata KPro for our 04. OBDII, Honda base maps.
Just need to swap out a few sensors or run a converter harness.