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Old 07-07-2016, 11:23 AM
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I believe I got 2 or 3 keys with the car. I want to say I have the "S2000" branded one (which I was using in this video), a black Honda one and grey Honda one. What does the valet key look like? I don't remember one being shorter than the others. I'll have to shop around and see if I can get a cheap key made maybe without an immobilizer and cut as much of the end as possible.

The seat (which is a Bride Stradia "Low Max" not stock BTW) is on the lowest rail Bride makes for them. I even bent the mounting bracket a little in an attempt to sit lower, I'd say I'm at least 1-1/2" lower than stock.

Regarding brake pads I have DTC-70s on stock suspension (except sway bars). In regard to brake bias, it shouldn't matter what suspension you have after the weight transfers all that should factor in is the rate of deceleration. Or maybe the rear tires could have been a little greasier than the front (it was ~100 F ambient). I have more negative camber in the front than the rear. I could definitely feel the rear end dancing before I reached threshold braking on the front basically all day.

The spin was directly caused by the ignition switch, I didn't get as good a run off of Turn 5 and used the same braking point as I normally do. The microphone is in the trunk next to the rear tires and you can definitely hear them lock up before the car goes sideways. Granted I probably should have eased of the brakes earlier to stop the lockup but when you are used to having ABS and you are heading toward a concrete wall things slip the mind.
Old 07-07-2016, 12:18 PM
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Give the DTC-30 a shot in the rear. i like the balance of my car with the 70/30's
Old 07-07-2016, 12:54 PM
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Valet is the gray one. I know black and silver "S2000" one is longer than the others, I don't recall if the plain black one is longer than the valet or not.
Old 07-07-2016, 05:15 PM
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If your knees are in the dash you're too close, you need to move your seat back and go to an aftermarket wheel w/ a big spacer.
Old 07-08-2016, 06:48 AM
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Never had this issue, 6'1" myself.

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Old 07-08-2016, 08:59 AM
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Yea, I got the rear DTC-70s for more than half off so that is why I went with them.

Here are the pictures of the different keys. They are very similar length-wise. Maybe the shape of the "standard" keys may make them slightly less likely to be bumped.

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Old 07-08-2016, 09:17 AM
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Yeah, the plain black and gray one are pretty much the same size but I have a fob on the black one so using the valet just means I don't have to take the fob off. It looks pretty much the same in your picture, but I remember the silver and black one seemed like it stuck out further in the ignition--must be the shape and my mind skewing my perception.
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I moved the steering wheel back by 2" so I could sit further back and not have my leg bent at such an angle to get my knee even near the key. I'm 6' 1". Stock seats/rails. Plenty of room for heel/toe and yes, the proper heel/toe. Not the bastardized half and half version that some people have to do.
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Originally Posted by ViperASR
Originally Posted by c32b' timestamp='1467879567' post='24010824
[quote name='ViperASR' timestamp='1467825772' post='24010307']
Square compound brake pads with a square setup doesn't work. I tried it based on information from s2ki, and the car was horribly squirrely under braking.
Square pads on square setup is totally fine. Probably height or other kind of setup issue IMO
I think it depends on a few things. Initial bite being one of them.
I'm on a square pad setup now, but I've got an ST40 kit up front and am using a way less aggressive pad and am totally happy with my braking performance.
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You also have WAY bigger pads up front than you do in the back.. :roll eyes:

Zero issues with the same compound front and rear for me on stock pad sizes.
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I love how this turned into a brake pad discussion. Run whatever pads feel best for you and your braking style. I run the PFC08s in my Stoptech STR40s in the front which are an endurance pad and the PFC97s which are a similar but non endurance pad in the OEM rears. If you can get away with it try and make those rear brakes work more for you and not less.


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