b18 swapped teg vs. ap2
10-25-2010, 10:13 AM
#12
A gutted type R hatch only beat you by 2 cars? That's not a lot especially considering how light hatches can be. Much lighter than integers.
So like I said. Unless this kid has a fully built Type R, I wouldn't sweat it. (and I don't mean intake/header/exhaust) he'd have to have custom pistons, cams, etc etc.
Remeber the shit talkers almost always talk shit to make up for what they don't have.
So like I said. Unless this kid has a fully built Type R, I wouldn't sweat it. (and I don't mean intake/header/exhaust) he'd have to have custom pistons, cams, etc etc.
Remeber the shit talkers almost always talk shit to make up for what they don't have.
10-25-2010, 12:54 PM
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Dont worry about it man you got him all day long. 
I raced my buddies GSR integra and he has I/H/E, 11:1 Compression, Fully built head with stage 2 cams, Intake Manifold, 68mm throttle body, and a Type R tranny, and Hondata Tuned.
I raced him a few times and i would pull on him about 3-4 Cars all day.
I raced my buddies GSR integra and he has I/H/E, 11:1 Compression, Fully built head with stage 2 cams, Intake Manifold, 68mm throttle body, and a Type R tranny, and Hondata Tuned.
I raced him a few times and i would pull on him about 3-4 Cars all day.
10-25-2010, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hypforlife32,Oct 24 2010, 11:05 PM
but yet again a fully built b series is like the smartest kid with down syndrome...no one cares.
one in particular has best et of 10.4x @ 13x....idk bout you but thats impressive to me...that such an old design can still hold its ground...
10-26-2010, 04:36 PM
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All of these answers are likely incorrect - if he's swapped a motor in and has normal mods his whp is going to be 170whp on a dyno jet in a car likely to be 2400 pounds with driver depending on wether he kept ac and ps ect. 14:1 real p2w
whereas you are in a car weighing 3000 pounds with a whp on a dyno jet in the 175 range or 17:1 p2w
plus he probably doesnt mind trying to break something to your more sedated launch - also aftermarket intake and exhaust reduce throttle lag quite a bit and if he has tires that are decent he should easily win.
Good tires on a stock GSR can bump it from a 15.2 1/4 to 14 flat with no other mods.
If he has an ITR swap the superior trans and additional hp is more than enough to win.
whereas you are in a car weighing 3000 pounds with a whp on a dyno jet in the 175 range or 17:1 p2w
plus he probably doesnt mind trying to break something to your more sedated launch - also aftermarket intake and exhaust reduce throttle lag quite a bit and if he has tires that are decent he should easily win.
Good tires on a stock GSR can bump it from a 15.2 1/4 to 14 flat with no other mods.
If he has an ITR swap the superior trans and additional hp is more than enough to win.
10-26-2010, 05:39 PM
#19
^ he's not going to win if it's still in an integra, sorry.
PS: most s2k's weigh about 3k... with someone in the car, and they don't make 175 whp on any dynojet EVER. More like (ap1) 195-200, and (ap2) 200-210
PS: most s2k's weigh about 3k... with someone in the car, and they don't make 175 whp on any dynojet EVER. More like (ap1) 195-200, and (ap2) 200-210
10-26-2010, 06:17 PM
#20
Originally Posted by Duke Togo,Oct 26 2010, 07:36 PM
All of these answers are likely incorrect - if he's swapped a motor in and has normal mods his whp is going to be 170whp on a dyno jet in a car likely to be 2400 pounds with driver depending on wether he kept ac and ps ect. 14:1 real p2w
whereas you are in a car weighing 3000 pounds with a whp on a dyno jet in the 175 range or 17:1 p2w
plus he probably doesnt mind trying to break something to your more sedated launch - also aftermarket intake and exhaust reduce throttle lag quite a bit and if he has tires that are decent he should easily win.
Good tires on a stock GSR can bump it from a 15.2 1/4 to 14 flat with no other mods.
If he has an ITR swap the superior trans and additional hp is more than enough to win.
whereas you are in a car weighing 3000 pounds with a whp on a dyno jet in the 175 range or 17:1 p2w
plus he probably doesnt mind trying to break something to your more sedated launch - also aftermarket intake and exhaust reduce throttle lag quite a bit and if he has tires that are decent he should easily win.
Good tires on a stock GSR can bump it from a 15.2 1/4 to 14 flat with no other mods.
If he has an ITR swap the superior trans and additional hp is more than enough to win.
And FYI a GSR integra is 2672lbs, and a type R is 2595lbs, and an GS is 2643. Where did your magic 2400lb number come from? Maybe a fully stripped shell perhaps?
Try 2840lbs for an 07 ap2 and 210whp all Stock. probably more like 215whp with his mods.
s2k power/weight 13.2 (215whp)
typeR power/weight 13.6 (modded 190whp)
GSR power/weight 15.2 (175whp even modded thats a big gap!)
GSR power/weight 18.4 (145whp OEM oh wow huge gap)
PLUS you completely forget the fact the S2000 has MUCH wider tires than an integra, so how exactly does better tires magically give the integra such an advantage? 215 width at best vs 245s in a already stick re50 rubber? Especially from a Dig? Given the same wouldnt the OP's 70mm exhaust give him better response too?
THIS is the kind of crap which is exactly what fuels kids with old skool hondas/acuras to think they all of a sudden have a rocket race car when they install intake/exhaust.
NO. intake and exhaust on a GSR does NOT make it super fast all of a sudden. Can the B series be built to make great power? Absolutely! I had a friend with a B20Vtec swap in his Integra with 240whp. But that was NOT a B18 engine.
Fast B series engines are out there for sure. But your run of the mill swap is NOT as fast as that friend's friend's swapped integra who saw it on you tube.