MY06 vs EVO IX MR
#21
Originally Posted by Spartikus,Jan 17 2007, 05:47 PM
Mag times are typically slower than the best times. Evos have broken into the 12's trapping ~107mph bone stock in the hands of great drivers. S2000's get decently well into the 13's with great drivers.
I would say mag times are average at best.
I would say mag times are average at best.
Is that ever an understatement!
#22
Originally Posted by deanjones,Jan 17 2007, 05:16 PM
Umm... not necessarily... They're simply stats showing the speed of the vehicle. Do you have "rolling" times for each car? If so, post them... However, the "drag" numbers just don't add up at all. It does hold some value. I don't know if I'd say it doesn't hold ANY value. I think you're going overboard to try and bash someone that's pointing out that a car you drive will get beat by another car... I mean, tough shit... The S2000 gets beat by a ton of other cars as well as the Evo. Don't take such offense to it.
Nevertheless, it's obvious the Evo will win from both positions. I went up against 2 Evo's when I had my S2000 and got spanked both times. Both times were from a roll and I consider myself a reasonable driver...
Nevertheless, it's obvious the Evo will win from both positions. I went up against 2 Evo's when I had my S2000 and got spanked both times. Both times were from a roll and I consider myself a reasonable driver...
Of course the drag numbers don't add up...if it was a drag situtation I would say the same thing, however, again its not; its a roll situtation.
#23
uhhh drag strip numbers are useful on a roll. look @ trap speed =] thats a pretty damn good indication. out cars at stock best traps what.. 101? evo 9's at stock best traps... 106? 5mph different = how many cars?
are cars aren't that slow... but comparing it to a FI 4g63 engine that can get to 330awhp with about 700$.. we don't stand a chance. sure evo's might beat us in a roadcourse but then there's the people that say omg... drive s2k 10/10 and you'll beat a evo or we'll beat them in autox._. how many of you guys can drive 10/10? honestly, if i wanted flat out performance in every condition and needed a 4 door, i would of gotten an evo or sti. i wanted a high revving convertible that gets twitchy and im in it for the whole driving experience.
sorry to the op i got off track BUT... nice encounter=]=] my brother has an evo9 as well with 3 inch turboback, mbc, aem intake.. have yet to run him because i don't want to risk it. all in all, s2k looks better than evo. but they're faster for the money.
are cars aren't that slow... but comparing it to a FI 4g63 engine that can get to 330awhp with about 700$.. we don't stand a chance. sure evo's might beat us in a roadcourse but then there's the people that say omg... drive s2k 10/10 and you'll beat a evo or we'll beat them in autox._. how many of you guys can drive 10/10? honestly, if i wanted flat out performance in every condition and needed a 4 door, i would of gotten an evo or sti. i wanted a high revving convertible that gets twitchy and im in it for the whole driving experience.
sorry to the op i got off track BUT... nice encounter=]=] my brother has an evo9 as well with 3 inch turboback, mbc, aem intake.. have yet to run him because i don't want to risk it. all in all, s2k looks better than evo. but they're faster for the money.
#25
Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,Jan 17 2007, 04:23 PM
Trap speeds can be misleading as well. If you get a good start your going to get a higher trap speed....AWD is known for great starts.
#26
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Originally Posted by deanjones,Jan 17 2007, 03:35 PM
They're not necessarily false... They're just the absolute best times they could get out of the car in the absolute best conditions. That's why I said "at the very best". However, I will say that they are near-impossible to reach times typically. A more realistic 0-60 for the Evo 9 is around 5 and a more realistic time for the S2000 is around 6 from the track numbers I have seen posted.
Ultimately, it comes down to the driver, but like I said, I'm a decent driver and I couldn't hang with an Evo 7 or 8 when I had my 2002 S2000...
I wish the video was a bit better... I mean, you can see it, but it doesn't look like you did much on that Evo even with your mods. But, I'll take your word for it.
Ultimately, it comes down to the driver, but like I said, I'm a decent driver and I couldn't hang with an Evo 7 or 8 when I had my 2002 S2000...
I wish the video was a bit better... I mean, you can see it, but it doesn't look like you did much on that Evo even with your mods. But, I'll take your word for it.
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Trap speed would have to do with how you start from zero. For a race from a roll, you would need to figure out speed times such as: 40mph-100mph. In that sense, trapspeed is pretty useless because one car maybe faster than another car DURING 40-100 but slower from 0-40 and 100-1XX. Get my drift? Also, gearing is a big difference. The different gears (some stronger gears and some weaker) at different speeds can win a race from a roll.
EDIT: By the way, I'm not taking any sides. Nice run to the threadstarter.
EDIT: By the way, I'm not taking any sides. Nice run to the threadstarter.
#28
Originally Posted by ppark1229,Jan 17 2007, 08:44 PM
Trap speed would have to do with how you start from zero. For a race from a roll, you would need to figure out speed times such as: 40mph-100mph. In that sense, trapspeed is pretty useless because one car maybe faster than another car DURING 40-100 but slower from 0-40 and 100-1XX. Get my drift? Also, gearing is a big difference. The different gears (some stronger gears and some weaker) at different speeds can win a race from a roll.
EDIT: By the way, I'm not taking any sides. Nice run to the threadstarter.
EDIT: By the way, I'm not taking any sides. Nice run to the threadstarter.
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1/4 mile trap speeds is an indicator of how much power a car is putting out effectively to the ground, therefore a car that traps "higher" will be the faster car on a highway roll-on race.....
If anyone is in doubt go race a car that typically traps "higher" and if he loses to you then I'll buy you a steak dinner....
If anyone is in doubt go race a car that typically traps "higher" and if he loses to you then I'll buy you a steak dinner....
#30
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Originally Posted by 05YellowEVO8,Jan 17 2007, 09:12 PM
1/4 mile trap speeds is an indicator of how much power a car is putting out effectively to the ground, therefore a car that traps "higher" will be the faster car on a highway roll-on race.....
If anyone is in doubt go race a car that typically traps "higher" and if he loses to you then I'll buy you a steak dinner....
If anyone is in doubt go race a car that typically traps "higher" and if he loses to you then I'll buy you a steak dinner....
Not hating, love the evo and have been thinking about one if what I really wan doesn't fall through, but just stating through personal experiences.