Moneeb

Late last night, one of the newer Z28s was trying to get me to race him. He kept blasting past me while I was cruising at about 70mph. Would slow down, get behind me and then blast past again. Anyways, I didnt bite, because the hwy was not completely deserted and I am taking it very easy with my stook atleast until I hit 1k miles.

I was just wondering how fast the Z28s are. How would a stook measure up against them from a standstill or from a roll at say 60mph?

ultimate lurker

He'd hand you your tail on the roll, especially above 60 mph. From a stop, if you're a good driver and the Camaro is a manual, you might be able to stay ahead till 60 mph or so, but he'd come roaring by you after that. The automatics are a little slower at speed, but they launch really well, without much driver skill.

Remember, these cars put 300 hp to the wheels vs. our 200 hp. Yeah, they weigh more, but not 50% more.

UL

BratBoy

I beg to differ, UL.....

Those Camaros are fast, yes.....but they are much more powerful down low. Now over about 80-90mph on the freeway, I think the S2K could at least hand or even pull. More aerodynamic, and makes all of its power up high! The Camaro starts to run out of breath over 110mph....and is much heavier.

Eze8199

I've seen 0-60 times for both cars and the s2k is just faster.

Insomniak

'98 to '01 z28's and firebirds have a LS1 engine and will beat you off the line and on the highway.. they run low 13's in the 1/4 and on the highway they will walk away from you easily. unless of coarse you have a Supercharger.

but the older model '97 or older i believe.. LT-1 we have a good chance with.. they run about the same 1/4 times stock and i've run my friends '96 trans am on the highway.. after 5 runs i'd be even w/ him or even pulling until 93mph (end of 3rd gear) at which point his car gets a second breathe (ram air induction maybe?) and starts pulling on me.

and the older model TPI engines are even slower.

erik

This has been discussed so many times, but I ALWAYS feel the need to post because my roommate owns a 97 Z28 (LT1). The '98s and above are LS1s.

First off, LS1s are faster, from the stop, on the move, in reverese . And that's stock. Forget the simple exhaust switch, whisper lid, and CAI and then you can really forget about it.

Second, we can hang with LT1s STOCK. Problem is, they are so easily modded, that a lot of times you are not dealing with a stock Z28. My roommate had some minor mods (Borla, CAI, and I think one other low hp adder) and I would sit at his rear bumper and not move. Really depended on who had the move. But now, the thing is a monster, and I don't even try.

And Eze8199, not to flame you, but whose slips are you looking at? Are these 92 Z28 slips that you are looking at? That's a good one!

Phantom

Ha!

I raced a 00 Z28 with only an aftermarket exhaust from a stoplight twice...

Each time I only lost by a bumper, and we went up to 100mph.
Botht the Z28 and I had a passenger. The Z28 guy looked pretty hefty along with this sidekick.

It was on a normal street one night, I had a pretty good take off both times. The Z28 has loads of torque, but that Z28 looked like it had a hard time getting grip on the regular street...but, that's not my problem.

He was damn suprised after both races when I told him the car is stock without forced induction...he had the look on his face like...what in the hell japanese car is that?

ultimate lurker

Bratboy - The LS1's (which is what I assume Moneeb encountered) are very powerful down low, but with the 6 speed, they are very difficult to launch. With all that torque its hard to avoid wheelspin on street tires (opposite of our problem). That's why you can hang to 60 if you are a good driver against a 6MT LS1. After 60, well, their aerodynamics are probably better than ours and weight means less as speed climbs. There is no way they have 50% more drag than we do and all the LS1 racers talk about their third gear as where they make their money.

Another way to look at it, let's say the LS1 and S2K get to 60 in 5.2 seconds. The S2K will finish the quarter in about 13.9-14.0 seconds at 100 mph. So it takes about 8.8 seconds to do 60-100. The Camaro will do the quarter in 13.3-13.4 (easy) at 106-108 mph. So it will be going 6-8 mph faster in 0.5-0.7 seconds less. That's a whoopin!

I think Phantom's race backs this up, he probably went up against a guy that couldn't hook on streets.

In terms of LT1 cars, yeah, we can keep up or even beat the LT1 cars. They seemed to be highly variable in performance. Some LT1 Z28's only ran 14.6@97, some ran high 13's at over 100 mph. But, they do respond well to mods (although it takes a lot to put them on LS1 levels). I once pulled on an LT1 Vette from 80-130 mph. Started about 3-4 cars behind him and passed him at the top of 5th. I couldn't believe it and neither could my passenger. Figured maybe he started a gear high, but we would have passed him a lot sooner if he had. That would never happen with an LS1.

UL

Moneeb

It was definitely an LT1 Z28

Thanks for the info guys and thanks for putting the facts straight lurker - makes me glad I didnt tangle with him

Phantom

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posted by ultimate lurker:
Another way to look at it, let's say the LS1 and S2K get to 60 in 5.2 seconds. The S2K will finish the quarter in about 13.9-14.0 seconds at 100 mph. So it takes about 8.8 seconds to do 60-100. The Camaro will do the quarter in 13.3-13.4 (easy) at 106-108 mph. So it will be going 6-8 mph faster in 0.5-0.7 seconds less. That's a whoopin!