S2000 Under The Hood S2000 Technical and Mechanical discussions.

AP1 S2000 Engine ticking - Stumped!!

Thread Tools
 
Old 02-15-2017, 11:02 AM
  #31  

 
Car Analogy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 7,851
Likes: 0
Received 1,315 Likes on 993 Posts
Default

Just top it off. The octane level will average out, and should be high enough.
Old 02-15-2017, 11:40 AM
  #32  

Thread Starter
 
Mitchelperkins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Louisville
Posts: 119
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Finally got word back from the shop it is at now. They claim I have coils on cylinder #2 and #4 failing, but no codes have ever came up and swapping new coils in did nothing to help the problem. Pulled valve cover, cams and rockers in good condition apparently. Didn't mention anything about the valves themselves.
"The noise does not appear to be in the area of the cylinder head or in the lower area of the block. We feel the noise is related to a piston or wrist pin. The next step would be to remove the cylinder head and oil pan to gain access and remove the Pistons to inspect. We believe that cylinder #4 is the origin of this noise."

So, no mention of valves(or mention of them being a problem) and I asked about octane issues and they waved me off as that being nonsense and no way could be causing this.
Opinions?

Last edited by Mitchelperkins; 02-15-2017 at 12:38 PM.
Old 02-15-2017, 05:51 PM
  #33  
Moderator

 
Billman250's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 22,004
Received 1,253 Likes on 763 Posts
Default

Sounds like guesswork by a clueless shop.

A good mechanic will not need to pull the head to diagnose it.

Find another shop.
Old 02-15-2017, 07:00 PM
  #34  

Thread Starter
 
Mitchelperkins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Louisville
Posts: 119
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Billman250
Sounds like guesswork by a clueless shop.

A good mechanic will not need to pull the head to diagnose it.

Find another shop.
it was towed to another shop this afternoon. This time it is one picked out by my relatives who own and operate the largest salvage yard in my state. I trust they know where to take their cars for good service.

do you think my mistake of putting in 87 could've triggered this? Could it really be as simple as switching the gas to 93 or am I dreaming?
Old 02-15-2017, 07:29 PM
  #35  

 
lookstoomuch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: North Chicago Suburbs
Posts: 507
Received 28 Likes on 27 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mitchelperkins
it was towed to another shop this afternoon. This time it is one picked out by my relatives who own and operate the largest salvage yard in my state. I trust they know where to take their cars for good service.

do you think my mistake of putting in 87 could've triggered this? Could it really be as simple as switching the gas to 93 or am I dreaming?
no, as much as I wish it could have for your sake...the difference between 87 and 91 octane is not substantial and the S has mechanisms in place to account for it.
Old 02-16-2017, 04:23 AM
  #36  

Thread Starter
 
Mitchelperkins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Louisville
Posts: 119
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by lookstoomuch
no, as much as I wish it could have for your sake...the difference between 87 and 91 octane is not substantial and the S has mechanisms in place to account for it.
I understand.. I knew it was a longshot was just trying to see if somehow I might've caused this to happen but it really looks like a case of really bad luck. Hopefully this shop finds a solution short of another rebuild to this.
Old 02-16-2017, 10:15 PM
  #37  

 
Mullallyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 90
Received 10 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by V6 Donut
after compression I would grab a boroscope and inspect cylinder walls personally. Id recommend running a leak down as well.

This, $40 on amazon can get you a good one that will connect to your phone
Old 02-21-2017, 09:02 AM
  #38  

Thread Starter
 
Mitchelperkins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Louisville
Posts: 119
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Well I finally got my car back from the shop I took it to, they replaced 2 coils that they believed were failing as well but couldn't diagnose the engine because "it is too old and complicated for them" very disappointed. The car was near empty and I filled it all the way up with 93. Runs significantly better on the highway with no noises to speak of and idles better, but still ticking. Not sure what to do next.. Looking into buying a borescope
Old 02-22-2017, 11:15 AM
  #39  
Registered User

 
jyeung528's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Temple City
Posts: 8,595
Likes: 0
Received 52 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

i might have missed this, but did anyone check the valve clearances?

also, what exactly was replaced in the engine rebuild?
Old 02-22-2017, 12:18 PM
  #40  

Thread Starter
 
Mitchelperkins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Louisville
Posts: 119
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default


Originally Posted by jyeung528
i might have missed this, but did anyone check the valve clearances?

also, what exactly was replaced in the engine rebuild?
last shop claimed it had nothing to do with the valve train, but no.. I highly doubt any of them bothered to actually check the clearances. I attached a picture of all the paperwork I have on the rebuild.


Quick Reply: AP1 S2000 Engine ticking - Stumped!!



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:27 AM.