Auto Passenger Window
04-20-2011, 04:38 AM
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Auto Passenger Window
I did a search and it seems this topic has come up a few times in the past. One thread made mention of a potential solution and it looks sound.
It's a piggyback system which claims to be able to add remote operation to windows also. Seeing as I only want a 1 window 1 switch install (passenger window/drivers side switch) I am not interested in the remote option, nor would wire it up. But for the actual auto switching it seems like this should do the trick, it;'s not overly expensive either.
See here:
http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/autol...?itemid=WC1000
Has anyone tried this exact solution or something like it and would care to comment? If the solution works what kind of interest might there be for a group buy, if not to save on the product itself to save on shipping?
It's a piggyback system which claims to be able to add remote operation to windows also. Seeing as I only want a 1 window 1 switch install (passenger window/drivers side switch) I am not interested in the remote option, nor would wire it up. But for the actual auto switching it seems like this should do the trick, it;'s not overly expensive either.
See here:
http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/autol...?itemid=WC1000
Has anyone tried this exact solution or something like it and would care to comment? If the solution works what kind of interest might there be for a group buy, if not to save on the product itself to save on shipping?
04-20-2011, 07:03 AM
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iv always been curious about this......
the drivers side has 2 stages when pushing up or down, the passenger side switch only has 1 stage going up and down, so the switch would need to be used from either the drivers side or a compatible donor?!
i assume that their is also relays and what not in order to create a 'loop' which then cancels?!
my dads new accord has auto switchs all round, including the rear windows, im guessing its all down to a cost thing. I wish there was 1 button that controlled both windows together
the drivers side has 2 stages when pushing up or down, the passenger side switch only has 1 stage going up and down, so the switch would need to be used from either the drivers side or a compatible donor?!
i assume that their is also relays and what not in order to create a 'loop' which then cancels?!
my dads new accord has auto switchs all round, including the rear windows, im guessing its all down to a cost thing. I wish there was 1 button that controlled both windows together
04-21-2011, 01:40 AM
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The cliffs on the subject are:
- You cannot just put in a drivers side window switch and have it work as the drivers one does
- Nobody seems to have looked in depth into a 'OEM' like solution by using the correct switch gear and circuitry.It no doubt CAN be done but what additional parts you need, what new wiring etc is seemingly unknown - Worst case is an entire electric window setup from a US vehicle. I think at the bare minimum you would need the switch gear, and be able to run extra cabling/sensors from the passenger side motor for feedback to the switch - Do we have any electrician types who could look over some of the parts diagrams and make an educated guess?
- The above system is a piggy back system which used the existing wiring and switching. It won't be a 4 step switch but pushing one of the 2 positions for up/down will start the one touch auto process and you no longer need to hold the switch down.
- I am not sure right now if the linked system allows stepped positions. Eg if you just want to crack the window open an inch. I ASSUME that you push once for the one touch roll down and then push the opposite way once to stop it mid-way. If it cannot do this it's no a huge issue for me personally, if I am activating windows it is usually an all up or all down affair.
My only reservation is the fact that it's not all universal, the switch is different. It's a function over form approach and I would be happy with it, just not as happy if I could have a clone of the drivers system in-place instead
- You cannot just put in a drivers side window switch and have it work as the drivers one does
- Nobody seems to have looked in depth into a 'OEM' like solution by using the correct switch gear and circuitry.It no doubt CAN be done but what additional parts you need, what new wiring etc is seemingly unknown - Worst case is an entire electric window setup from a US vehicle. I think at the bare minimum you would need the switch gear, and be able to run extra cabling/sensors from the passenger side motor for feedback to the switch - Do we have any electrician types who could look over some of the parts diagrams and make an educated guess?
- The above system is a piggy back system which used the existing wiring and switching. It won't be a 4 step switch but pushing one of the 2 positions for up/down will start the one touch auto process and you no longer need to hold the switch down.
- I am not sure right now if the linked system allows stepped positions. Eg if you just want to crack the window open an inch. I ASSUME that you push once for the one touch roll down and then push the opposite way once to stop it mid-way. If it cannot do this it's no a huge issue for me personally, if I am activating windows it is usually an all up or all down affair.
My only reservation is the fact that it's not all universal, the switch is different. It's a function over form approach and I would be happy with it, just not as happy if I could have a clone of the drivers system in-place instead
04-21-2011, 05:05 AM
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There's an ECU, so the challenge would be reprogramming it. Maybe the only difference between LHD and RHD is the wires are connected to the ECU the other way around - no idea, but if the ECU is programmed to provide the automatic functionality on one side, no amount of swapping bits around will solve it.
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04-21-2011, 05:43 AM
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There's an ECU, so the challenge would be reprogramming it. Maybe the only difference between LHD and RHD is the wires are connected to the ECU the other way around - no idea, but if the ECU is programmed to provide the automatic functionality on one side, no amount of swapping bits around will solve it.
Eg - Normal up/down momentary operation, but on the auto full push/pull click a timed signal is sent to emulate a depression which simply 'holds' up/down for X number of seconds on the passenger window wires, after which a pseudo-stop signal is sent back to the switch to take it off the auto position as if it was the ECU.
This seems quite feasible? I would be willing to try this myself with some guidance on the right parts. I have tried to dig out some digrams for the parts/wiring but have not come up with much yet. Might have to dig the multi-meter out!
