Originally Posted by saving4one

I'm in. I've always liked a five spoke wheel, from the Cragar S/S on my first car, Konig's (forgot the design name) on my Integra during my 20's, to the OEM on my AP1. I've considered going with a 17' set-up over the years but all the decent ones are quite expensive, I'd rather spend the money on other goodies like tires. I have always ran the S-02 on my stock wheels because I consider them an excellent street tire that I have grown accustomed to. I was actually crazy enough to pay cash for a used set of AP1 wheels to put race rubber on. Then I scuffed them up and had a friend rattle-can them a bronze that looks amazing with the right amount of brake dust and road grime. If I ever have a couple grand or so just lying around, I might buy a brand new set of OE CR rims or something with RAYS written on them, maybe. For now, I do love the classic look of the AP1 wheels, and the best part is their already paid for. Here are a couple of pics, first one is stock ride height, the second after lowering 1". Check out that crazy fender gap

Originally Posted by Jah2000

I am well aware, that an Ap2 wheel/tire upgrade, is one of the easiest, fastest and cheapest ways to improve handling, add much more grip, more tire choices, as well as modernize appearance, for an Ap1 (pretty obvious). But, I am wondering who here actually does Not (ever) plan to upgrade to 17" Ap2/aftermarket wheels and actually loves their small 16" more?

It's easy to find some Ap2 wheels locally for $400-600 in good condition. But, I am thinking of just sticking with the Ap1 wheels. Reasons:
- Keep it true original, oem and nostalgic
- Looks much more low-pro, incog, cheaper and sleeper (towards police, general public and also thieves).
- Smaller 16" wheels have their own "cool" factor going on by looking more "old-school" (like say small wheels on older jdm cars, ae86, old Miata, an old British roadster, etc.)
- They remind me of old Mugen RNR wheels
- Not sure if they're lighter. I think I've read the bigger Ap2 are actually lighter
- Smaller width for sure has more speed and less drag on long straights and maybe more nimble/sensitive/responsive steering-feel (I believe the wider tires you go, the more "numb" it feels..no?)

So..who here loves their tiny Ap1 wheels and doesn't ever plan to upgrade to Ap2 nor aftermarket wheels?

Originally Posted by zeroptzero

I've had usdm ap1 rims, ap2v2 rims, ap2v3 rims, and now on JDM ap1 BBS rims. I also felt a bit sluggishness going up to the ap2 rims and tires. The tires weigh more in addition to the rims, and the weight is spread further away from the center of the hub which also adds to the equation. I believe ap2v3 rims weigh as much or slightly more than ap2v2 rims, like right around 23 lbs. JDM Ap1 rims at 12-13 lbs is a big savings. You really notice the change when removing the rims and tires, so much easier to mount on the hubs.

Originally Posted by zeroptzero

JDM Ap1 rims at 12-13 lbs offer a big savings. You really notice the change when removing the rims and tires, they are so much easier to mount on the hubs, lol.