RE11A vs Pilot Super Sport vs. Rival
08-29-2013, 12:44 PM
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ok. so what would recommend on a ap1 with ap2v1 wheels. Im a aggressive-spirited driver that would like to take the car to Deals Gap and maybe a few autox events. Also I don't want a extreme performance tire because of low tread wear. 225f 255r
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08-29-2013, 01:12 PM
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DW or V12's although you might not be totally happy with either; unless it happens to be raining when you autox.
Also, UTQG is not always a good indicator of tread wear.
As I said before, RE11as would be my choice.
Also, UTQG is not always a good indicator of tread wear.
As I said before, RE11as would be my choice.
08-29-2013, 01:39 PM
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ok. so what would recommend on a ap1 with ap2v1 wheels. Im a aggressive-spirited driver that would like to take the car to Deals Gap and maybe a few autox events. Also I don't want a extreme performance tire because of low tread wear. 225f 255r
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08-29-2013, 03:18 PM
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No one on our local forum has bought the BFGc2s. My friend purchased the S04's for his car but only in OEM sizes; unfortunately I haven't gotten a chance to drive his car since he purchased them.
08-29-2013, 03:21 PM
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Get some info from him whenever you can if possible. whats you input on running 225f 255r?
08-29-2013, 05:36 PM
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I used the S04 in 215/245 when I first got my S2000. They are decent tires and not bad for learning to drive the car. Pushed over their operating temperature they will start to chunk a bit just like the PSS. Noticeably softer sidewall compared to the RE-11 and RE-11A and noticeably lower grip. The set of S04s I had seemed to make very little noise until they were past their limit. The RE11 gives much more useful audible feedback and much more linear feel. I would say the S04 is essentially equivalent to the PSS from my experience. Small differences between the two.
As I have mentioned before. If you drive the car in a way that S04/PSS will last longer than an RE11, you don't need an RE11 because you aren't taking them to their limit anyway. An S04/PSS driven like one would drive with an RE11 will be destroyed long before and RE11 will be. I know this from experience.
As I have mentioned before. If you drive the car in a way that S04/PSS will last longer than an RE11, you don't need an RE11 because you aren't taking them to their limit anyway. An S04/PSS driven like one would drive with an RE11 will be destroyed long before and RE11 will be. I know this from experience.
08-29-2013, 07:21 PM
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I used the S04 in 215/245 when I first got my S2000. They are decent tires and not bad for learning to drive the car. Pushed over their operating temperature they will start to chunk a bit just like the PSS. Noticeably softer sidewall compared to the RE-11 and RE-11A and noticeably lower grip. The set of S04s I had seemed to make very little noise until they were past their limit. The RE11 gives much more useful audible feedback and much more linear feel. I would say the S04 is essentially equivalent to the PSS from my experience. Small differences between the two.
As I have mentioned before. If you drive the car in a way that S04/PSS will last longer than an RE11, you don't need an RE11 because you aren't taking them to their limit anyway. An S04/PSS driven like one would drive with an RE11 will be destroyed long before and RE11 will be. I know this from experience.
As I have mentioned before. If you drive the car in a way that S04/PSS will last longer than an RE11, you don't need an RE11 because you aren't taking them to their limit anyway. An S04/PSS driven like one would drive with an RE11 will be destroyed long before and RE11 will be. I know this from experience.
08-29-2013, 09:46 PM
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I used the S04 in 215/245 when I first got my S2000. They are decent tires and not bad for learning to drive the car. Pushed over their operating temperature they will start to chunk a bit just like the PSS. Noticeably softer sidewall compared to the RE-11 and RE-11A and noticeably lower grip. The set of S04s I had seemed to make very little noise until they were past their limit. The RE11 gives much more useful audible feedback and much more linear feel. I would say the S04 is essentially equivalent to the PSS from my experience. Small differences between the two.
As I have mentioned before. If you drive the car in a way that S04/PSS will last longer than an RE11, you don't need an RE11 because you aren't taking them to their limit anyway. An S04/PSS driven like one would drive with an RE11 will be destroyed long before and RE11 will be. I know this from experience.
As I have mentioned before. If you drive the car in a way that S04/PSS will last longer than an RE11, you don't need an RE11 because you aren't taking them to their limit anyway. An S04/PSS driven like one would drive with an RE11 will be destroyed long before and RE11 will be. I know this from experience.
Thank you bro for you input, but for my knowledge you cant take the RE11A on wet roads or in the rain, correct?
08-29-2013, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by andrewhake' timestamp='1377826596' post='22752821
I used the S04 in 215/245 when I first got my S2000. They are decent tires and not bad for learning to drive the car. Pushed over their operating temperature they will start to chunk a bit just like the PSS. Noticeably softer sidewall compared to the RE-11 and RE-11A and noticeably lower grip. The set of S04s I had seemed to make very little noise until they were past their limit. The RE11 gives much more useful audible feedback and much more linear feel. I would say the S04 is essentially equivalent to the PSS from my experience. Small differences between the two.
As I have mentioned before. If you drive the car in a way that S04/PSS will last longer than an RE11, you don't need an RE11 because you aren't taking them to their limit anyway. An S04/PSS driven like one would drive with an RE11 will be destroyed long before and RE11 will be. I know this from experience.
As I have mentioned before. If you drive the car in a way that S04/PSS will last longer than an RE11, you don't need an RE11 because you aren't taking them to their limit anyway. An S04/PSS driven like one would drive with an RE11 will be destroyed long before and RE11 will be. I know this from experience.
Thank you bro for you input, but for my knowledge you cant take the RE11A on wet roads or in the rain, correct?
Based on my experience, RE-11 (first gen) performs perfectly fine in the rain. I've driven to track events in monsoon like storms (crazy patchy desert weather) going 75mph no problem. I felt no squirreliness at all in the car. The RE-11A should perform equal to the RE-11 since they have identical tread patterns - the change is the compound.
For me, the PSS isn't even on my shopping list/options. I've limited my next tire to RE-11A and Direzza ZII (which i'm currently on). RS3s are fast, but that tire definitely sucks in the rain - do not like it in the rain at all.
But yes, essentially agree with what Andrew said.
