Gas
#23
Update, for what it's worth.
I changed the plugs on my car, have run a couple of tanks of Costco premium gas, no problems, no CEL, all is good. It may have been the case that the older plugs, which were colder than stock, put the emissions sensor just on the brink of showing the CEL, and whatever difference there is between Chevron and Costco Premium, was enough to trigger the light. Or, it could have been the phases of the moon and the migration of anchovies. And Leprechauns.
In any case, the S2000 happily digests Costco premium now.
Live and learn, or not.
JC
I changed the plugs on my car, have run a couple of tanks of Costco premium gas, no problems, no CEL, all is good. It may have been the case that the older plugs, which were colder than stock, put the emissions sensor just on the brink of showing the CEL, and whatever difference there is between Chevron and Costco Premium, was enough to trigger the light. Or, it could have been the phases of the moon and the migration of anchovies. And Leprechauns.
In any case, the S2000 happily digests Costco premium now.
Live and learn, or not.
JC
#24
We don't call my misorganization The Institute of Empirical Blunders for nothing.
The CEL relit, I reset it, it lit again. This on both Costco Premium and Chevron Premium gas. But both times, it happened during wet road driving. Hmmmmmm.
Maybe the newish O2 sensor was bad?
I went under the car, and one of the sensor wires' insulation had been nicked. There were bare wires exposed to the elements. Who knows how it happened, a rock thrown up by a front wheel, too many layers of paint on a speed bump, but there it was.
I rebundled the wires as best I could, covered them with insulating Goop, and wrapped it in insulating tape which I also sealed with Goop. No CEL since then. Long drive coming up, I expect no problems but will report what happens.
Cheers folks,
Joe
The CEL relit, I reset it, it lit again. This on both Costco Premium and Chevron Premium gas. But both times, it happened during wet road driving. Hmmmmmm.
Maybe the newish O2 sensor was bad?
I went under the car, and one of the sensor wires' insulation had been nicked. There were bare wires exposed to the elements. Who knows how it happened, a rock thrown up by a front wheel, too many layers of paint on a speed bump, but there it was.
I rebundled the wires as best I could, covered them with insulating Goop, and wrapped it in insulating tape which I also sealed with Goop. No CEL since then. Long drive coming up, I expect no problems but will report what happens.
Cheers folks,
Joe
#26
Gas- What not to Do- Filling up with a lower grade than recommended by manufacturer (ex. filling up your S2000, Golf GTI, BMW M3, Mercedes AMG ... with 87 instead of 92 octane).
I'd say 99% of the time people are putting premium in those cars, but then there's a lot of cars that still recommend premium (like a base 3 series BMW or non AMG Mercedes), and say up to 25% of the time, people are filling them with regular, and then wonder why they run into expensive problems down the road. It is gambling trying to save an extra $2-3 a fill up, and then by getting lower gas mileage potentially they are going to offset that, and worse costlier repair bills will result so in the long run costing even more than just filling up with the correct grade of gas in the first place.
My comment is more based on the title, not your experience as it wasn't the gas that was the problem, it was..a sensor?
I'd say 99% of the time people are putting premium in those cars, but then there's a lot of cars that still recommend premium (like a base 3 series BMW or non AMG Mercedes), and say up to 25% of the time, people are filling them with regular, and then wonder why they run into expensive problems down the road. It is gambling trying to save an extra $2-3 a fill up, and then by getting lower gas mileage potentially they are going to offset that, and worse costlier repair bills will result so in the long run costing even more than just filling up with the correct grade of gas in the first place.
My comment is more based on the title, not your experience as it wasn't the gas that was the problem, it was..a sensor?
#27
Colder than stock plugs. Probably fouled the sensor, throwing the code.
Anyway, here's some extended reading on Top Tier (R) gas for everyone
Originally Posted by Wikipedia - Top Tier Detergent Gasoline
Top Tier Detergent Gasoline is a performance specification and trademark designed and supported by several major automakers - [including but not limited to Honda]. Top Tier gasolines must maintain levels of detergent additives that result in a higher standard of engine cleanliness and performance as compared to the EPA requirement. In addition, Top Tier fuels may not contain metallic additives, which can harm the vehicle emission system and create pollutants.
If Honda says it's good, then that's good enough for me.
#29
1:24- "Don't Check a Tanker's Fuel Level with your Lighter"
https://www.youtube....h?v=-5M--0CSZ1I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u_HeUvZD6o
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