s2000 vs. e46 m3 handling
03-21-2003, 06:08 AM
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when all is said and done..........who cares....they are not cross shoppable and have different applications. I really dislike magazine arguments. both are wonderfull cars and one should not get wrapped up in "who can out handle who". YOU (the driver) make all the difference anyway. remember.....don't sweat the petty stuff and don't pet sweaty things. 
03-21-2003, 09:15 AM
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I think the M3 was put up against the NSX because of similar power, not necessarily handling. I'm pretty sure that an NSX would handily beat an M3 on most tracks, due to its better power to weight ratio, lower weight, equal tire sizes (more or less), and more focused purpose as a sports car. That said, they're all great cars and I'd gladly own one and all.
03-21-2003, 09:46 AM
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Hey hey, I'm just regurgitating what I've read isn't that what this thread is about?
kster - for your information I've owned both as well, and I am disipointed in how heavy the M is and how much it creaks and groans going into my driveway. I don't get that at all in my S. What we need is some torsenial stiffness data. An open top does not equate to a flexable chassis. Look at the 2nd gen rx7, and the z4 as examples. And the bump steer thing really pisses me off. I personally encountered much more bumpsteer in the BMW at lower speed, and at lower cornering forces that in the S. Maybe the people who complain need some alignment work, or maybe I'm blessed (doubt that). Speaking from experience here. I'm not saying the M3 "sucks", quite the opposite, I love it. But these are points I've encountered myself, and consequently, I prefer the s2000 because of it.
Yes I was incorrect on the power/weight ratio, sorry, I got excited there. My main point was the idea of "classing" cars, looks like a couple of you missed that one.....
JonBoy - that's a good point, and probably the magazines intention, I just think it's silly to post that as a "classification". All that will do is create a pissing match like the one we got here, and miss entirely the idea of what a bunch of wonderful cars they are.....
"I would Imaging the M3 is easier to drive at the limit but probably isn't as much fun and tossable." - This is exactly my opinion, about the extra weight at the limit, as it is slightly slower to recover. Although it's also not as quick to step out like the S......
I guess you can't have it all.... 
kster - for your information I've owned both as well, and I am disipointed in how heavy the M is and how much it creaks and groans going into my driveway. I don't get that at all in my S. What we need is some torsenial stiffness data. An open top does not equate to a flexable chassis. Look at the 2nd gen rx7, and the z4 as examples. And the bump steer thing really pisses me off. I personally encountered much more bumpsteer in the BMW at lower speed, and at lower cornering forces that in the S. Maybe the people who complain need some alignment work, or maybe I'm blessed (doubt that). Speaking from experience here. I'm not saying the M3 "sucks", quite the opposite, I love it. But these are points I've encountered myself, and consequently, I prefer the s2000 because of it.
Yes I was incorrect on the power/weight ratio, sorry, I got excited there. My main point was the idea of "classing" cars, looks like a couple of you missed that one.....
JonBoy - that's a good point, and probably the magazines intention, I just think it's silly to post that as a "classification". All that will do is create a pissing match like the one we got here, and miss entirely the idea of what a bunch of wonderful cars they are.....
"I would Imaging the M3 is easier to drive at the limit but probably isn't as much fun and tossable." - This is exactly my opinion, about the extra weight at the limit, as it is slightly slower to recover. Although it's also not as quick to step out like the S......
I guess you can't have it all....
01-15-2008, 05:47 PM
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I've driven all 3, i own a 00' s2k my uncle owns a 00's NSX and my other uncle drives a 04' E46 M3. They all perform pretty well considering we are all close to stock. but i would give it to the NSX. after driving all 3 cars i really like the way nsx performs. The M3 is no doubt a really fast well balance car for luxury and sport driving.
01-15-2008, 06:17 PM
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Wow, what ignorance. I really can't believe you would come to an s2000 forum and post something like this without driving both cars...mabey not even one of them. Since you're so keen on the whole "internet racing" thing do me a favor, send Keiichi Tsuchiya (host of best motoring if you didn't know) an e-mail and ask him which car he thinks handles better. If you somehow do get a reply, don't bother coming back to post it. I'll already know the answer.
01-15-2008, 06:48 PM
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Hes just one of those drifting along, post 1 negative post per forum and never reply back again kind of guys. Just let this thread die, i think its just a waste of time to actually respond to his thread.
01-16-2008, 12:41 AM
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