Ethanol comparison
11-07-2016, 08:21 AM
#51
Do you have one already put in an Excel file? I didn't see duty cycles posted in the prior post. I couldn't tell if it was a poor AFR graph or manifold pressure.
The higher that 85% comment was in reference to more ethanol content like you're seeing. The more ethanol you have (you say you're over 90%), the more injector you need.
The higher that 85% comment was in reference to more ethanol content like you're seeing. The more ethanol you have (you say you're over 90%), the more injector you need.
11-07-2016, 08:30 AM
#52
Lower graph is AFR and yes, it's not looking perfect 
Like a wrote before, at that run I had 94% duty at 8k and was hitting 100% at 8800rpm.
Here's the log in csv https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...005-155038.csv
Like a wrote before, at that run I had 94% duty at 8k and was hitting 100% at 8800rpm.
Here's the log in csv https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...005-155038.csv
11-07-2016, 09:02 AM
#53
Doing math off that log, you're at ~88% IDC @ 8k RPM, 99% @ 9k RPM.
Your contributing factors to higher duty cycles is the higher ethanol content and additional richness above 8k RPM. If you continue to have high ethanol content, your IDC will always be higher than most of us quote here where E85 is generally E70-E85. Exactly what 560cc injector are you running?
Your contributing factors to higher duty cycles is the higher ethanol content and additional richness above 8k RPM. If you continue to have high ethanol content, your IDC will always be higher than most of us quote here where E85 is generally E70-E85. Exactly what 560cc injector are you running?
11-07-2016, 11:01 AM
#55
If they are the ZR1 injectors, they're right at 500cc, which would also explain a little bit more IDC. You might want to keep tabs on your IDC's, especially as temps drop. That said, a slight maxing of those injectors while NA, and on E90+, you're not going to blow it up.
11-07-2016, 12:53 PM
#56
I'm running my fuel pressure slightly under 4bar so they should flow ~560cc, had to change to a walbro pump also since the stock didn't like that at all.
Yes I'm keeping an eye on it and I'm not that worried, but it's not much room left to grow with these.
Just wanted to ad some info and maybe help someone else decide in the future.
Maybe I should ad that I run ITB's also, not sure if that makes any difference injector vise though?
Yes I'm keeping an eye on it and I'm not that worried, but it's not much room left to grow with these.
Just wanted to ad some info and maybe help someone else decide in the future.
Maybe I should ad that I run ITB's also, not sure if that makes any difference injector vise though?
12-17-2016, 12:22 PM
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The only change I made to run E85 was larger injectors. I'm still using the stock fuel pump and stock fuel lines.
Unfortunately, Hondata currently does not offer support for the fuel composition sensor with the Flashpro Manager software. It is available for S300 and K-Pro so I'm sure that eventually there will be support for the fuel composition sensor.
At the moment, if you want to run the fuel composition sensor with an 06-09 AP2 you need AEM series 2, AEM Infinity or Haltech Elite.
Unfortunately, Hondata currently does not offer support for the fuel composition sensor with the Flashpro Manager software. It is available for S300 and K-Pro so I'm sure that eventually there will be support for the fuel composition sensor.
At the moment, if you want to run the fuel composition sensor with an 06-09 AP2 you need AEM series 2, AEM Infinity or Haltech Elite.
when this becomes available let me know!
I would like to make the switch
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