[DavidM]

I can't registed this time as it ws not in an S2000, but I'll log it here for referrence so that it is still here when the main thread dissapears (http://forums.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.p...702#post3887702).

Winton (long), in my 350Z with R-spec tyres + custom exhaust I managed 1:41.1.

[yellafellaS2000]

well done David and just to let you know I have sold my yella S2000 and replaced it with a Porsche 993 3.6 Varioram 6 speed manual. I'm at Winton later this month and will be interested to see what time I get as to the S2000.
YellaFella now Turquoise Tony!

[DavidM]

I have sold my yella S2000 and replaced it with a Porsche 993 3.6 Varioram 6 speed manual. I'm at Winton later this month and will be interested to see what time I get as to the S2000.

Me too. There was a Targa prepped 993 RS at Winton when I was there. It had RE55s all around (ie. same R-spec tyres as mine), had a roll-cage and suspension work. Not sure what else, but the car was comfortably in 1:39s and did a best of very low 1:39s fropm what I remember.

[yellafellaS2000]

Of course and seeing we will have a new HSSC president by then.:LOL: I'm out hunting for racing seat, spare wheels, spots exhaust etc as we speak!
TT

[slick]

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Originally posted by yellafellaS2000
Of course and seeing we will have a new HSSC president by then.:LOL: TT

:thumbup: :thumbup:

[jeffriess]

I've now set 54.44 on the short track at Oran Park. S2000 with r-spec rubber, independently timed.

[naishou]

That's pretty good. Only 2.4 seconds to go ;)

[DavidM]

I've now set 54.44 on the short track at Oran Park. S2000 with r-spec rubber, independently timed.

Cool ... that's 1sec improvement ... good stuff. I've updated the HOF to reflect this.

ps. When did you go?

[slick]

2.03.4 - Phillip Island, 29/5/2004. S2000, R spec rubber.

Unofficially timed by Iggy - probably not eligible to go into HOF list, but there you are.

[DavidM]

2.03.4 - Phillip Island, 29/5/2004. S2000, R spec rubber.

Hey Slick, that's a good time over there, another 3secs and you'll be in the elite 2 flat territory ;-). Are the PAIRC sprints on Saturdays timed? ie. will they post the times from Saturday ... or is Saturday stricly untimed?

[slick]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DavidM
2.03.4 - Phillip Island, 29/5/2004. S2000, R spec rubber.

Hey Slick, that's a good time over there, another 3secs and

[DavidM]

No official timing on Saturday - Sundays results should be posted on the PIARC web site.

Shame. Still, I know you as well as Iggy and the time is by no means outlandish so the HOF is updated with your 2.03.4 time.

[slick]

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Originally posted by DavidM
No official timing on Saturday - Sundays results should be posted on the PIARC web site.

Shame. Still, I know you as well as Iggy and the time is by no means outlandish so the HOF is updated with your 2.03.4 time.

Thanks, mate:thumbup:

[Mike@9k]

Hi guys, Im new to this board as ive only got my s2k for 6 weeks. Ive been talking to my friends regarding track days, and he said he ran a 2:02 in his civic coupe. His car has full exhaust, suspension upgrade and running crappy ferenza tyres. He claims to be only doing 180 on the straight and says the s2k should be doing much more than that. I thought we would have better handling, or are fwd cars faster?

He also said that there was an ITR with semi-slicks doing 1:56, but aparently that guys full hectic, drifting corners and hairpins.

Edit: Sorry, forgot to mention that it was at Eastern Creek.

[Blackie]

If he had crappy tyres and only an exhaust and suspension upgrade on his Civic coupe and only doing 180kph on the main straight then I doubt he could be pulling 2:02s (I'm assuming Philip Island, as Winton wouldn't allow you to pull those speeds). He must be a better fabricator than he is a driver :)

An ITR on semi-slicks doing 1:56 is plausible however, provided he had pads, suspension and mild engine mods. Oh, and a kick-arse driver who doesn't doooorrrrift...

Welcome to the forum btw Mike :hello:

[naishou]

I think a standard S2000 should do about 1:57 at Eastern Creek with a good driver, so the times mentioned are not outrageous. My guess is based on the MGF Trophy cars. The better amateur S2000 drivers are matching their times almost perfectly on other tracks.

[DavidM]

...he said he ran a 2:02 in his civic coupe. He claims to be only doing 180 on the straight and says the s2k should be doing much more than that.

2:02 at Eastern Creek in a Civic? Is your freend a brilliant driver (ie. pro level)? Did he have R-spec tyres, a serious/heavy suspension/engine mods? If you answer 'no' to either one of those, then he's pretty much fibbing.

Come to think of it, maybe he's mistaken about his time and it was 2:12 that he managed there. That would be already a impressive time for a non-pro driver in a Civic. Unless he can show you a listed time of 2:02 for him and his car, then he's very much fibbing (or mistaken).

I thought we would have better handling, or are fwd cars faster?

The S2000 and Civic 'handing' and 'performance' and in in-comperable as they are so far appart. The S2000 is several leagues beteer in every respect. There should be good 10sec difference in laptimes no matter what track you go to if you're talking about stock cars.

[Blackie]

Ohh sorry I didn't notice Mike was from Sydney (was late).

[Mike@9k]

David M, from what i'm hearing from my friend, they were timed from the start finish line by a 3rd party. He posted 2.02 in his civic coupe, and other friends posted 2 flat in another modified ITR and a modified golf got 2.08 only managing to go 160 down the straight.

Not trying to put you guys down, but I'm just curious about how they can get such fast times while our cars are much superior (maybe a bit biased there). I'm pretty sure hes not gonna fib about his times on the track as hes not that type of guy. Btw, this was his first time on the track, but hes a pretty aggressive street driver at times. I knew minis had good handling too and they are able to complete with times like 2.01 and even 1.57s http://www.mini2.com/forum/archive/index.p...hp/t-42935.html.

[Civic168]

Dont want ot offend s2k drivers
a fwd drfto as mentioned is cause by life off oversteer -
Its induced by the transfer of weight from the back upon acceleration to the back- so the back lightens up it would come around. the times are very possible.

It quite naive to doubt the times..... far from it.. should go out and time some cars at ec before making a judgement..

alot of cars get into the low 2 second bracket..
the ITR was completly stock and pb time of 1:56 running tramio semi slick...

[Civic168]

ohh the civic on hand has complete exhuast, shocks springs, rear strut brace, rear chasis brace, sway bar..... no other mods. btw- std front strut, 26mm front sway,
if i can recall it was 180 on str8 and 165 on turn one

[Civic168]

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Originally posted by Typeone_AP1
Hmmm sorry no offense at all but I think for a stock S2K 2.03.xx looks kinda too slow at EC, i believe it should get below 2min.

Also that at wakefield running only 1.13.xx with r spec rubber that looks quite slow as well, may i know what rubber r they? coz a friend of mine lapping in his DC2 at 1.11.xx or 1.12.xx all his got was toyo RA-01 plus racing pads. With this setup he got way under 2min at EC

I believe that S2K should be able to lap round 2sec faster than a DC2 or maybe 1sec at smaller track

KNOWLES??

HEY i agrees...........

[MKI4EVA]

its ok boys.........DavidM is from VIC.

[naishou]

This Civic is a VTEC model right? How much power does it have? 180 down the straight is very fast. That's about what the standard S2000s are getting. Turn 1 speed is right up there too. The time is not hard to believe at all IMO. It's still a long way off what an S2000 can do. We just haven't had anyone do it yet :)

[DavidM]

Not trying to put you guys down, but I'm just curious about how they can get such fast times while our cars are much superior (maybe a bit biased there).

Couple options:
a) The Civic is about as fasy as an S2000
b) Everyone who has an S2000 (and been to EC) is a crap driver
c) your fiend is a super, brilliat driver (ie. better than pro level)
d) your frield did not do 2:02

Look at what other cars get at Eastern Creek before you believe your frield. I still don't believe that a close to stock Civic on road-tyres can get that time, let alone get bellow 2:10 (which I'd find more believable though). Get him to go to a timed sprint, and then come back with the time listed at Natsoft ... then I'll belive it.

Look here:
- Elise with R-spec tyres: http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results....04/2004.ECIR.Q2
- MGF with R-spec tyres, suspension, exhaust and ECU mods: http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results....11/2003.ECIR.Q4
- Porsche club (all kinds of cars, tyres and mods) : http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results....10/2003.EAST.S1
- Morgan club (all kinds of cars, tyres and mods) : http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results....08/2003.EAST.S1
- Jaguar club (all kinds of cars, tyres and mods) = http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results....05/2003.EAST.S1

And finaly production cars, with race suspension, R-spec tyres, LSD, exhaust/ECU mods, and pro drivers:
http://www.procar.co..._5_2001_r1.html

Also, here are some times that were published recently in a local car mag for Eastern Creek:
- M3 CSL (R-spec tyres) = 1:48.0
- 911 GT3 = 1:49.8
- M3 (driven by David Brabham) = 1:55

Take a good look at the times set in all these meets, and tell ime if you still believe that a close to stock Civic on road-rubber can do 2:02. Find all the cars listed there that can get bellow 2:02 and and see what kind of company you need to be keeping to do that. Then draw your own conclusion.

ps. Keep in mind that R-spec tyres are worth around 3sec at somewhere like Eastern Creek.