[fperra]

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Originally posted by beroznikmal
AusS2000 & honda9krpm should move to MAS, USA and get married.....Hell they already argue like a married couple..... all the time!!!!!
:)

Yeah, they should move to Massachusetts.

[Slows2k]

Aside from the bickering Austrailians. I don't know what else I can add to the current debate.

S2000_Europe, I'm don't endorse running the 440cc injectors without some other electronic means of controlling them.

H9k, You have stated that someother S2ki user tried 440cc's, with the stock PCM. I've been around here a while, but have never read about any such thing.

You suggested that fperra, could have been that person.
Fperra then posted that running the 440's caused a DTC, for the fuel trim to rich. DTC's are indicators of a problem, that the system is operating outside of the design requirements.

I have never nor will I ever try to run 440's on a stock PCM. I do not know the answers to what AF# at idle. When the PCM runs out of correction range, it turns on the MIL for a P0172. This is not a 1 trip DTC, it takes multiple trips to set.

Since you will be using 1000cc+ rochester's, and an AEM, why does running 440's with a stock PCM even matter?

I'm sorry If I appear to be a little miffed, but after re-reading the past 3 pages, there is plenty of information that states why this topic is not a good idea. BTW, not all of the info was posted by myself.

I am not going to engage in transcontinental name calling, but After reading your posts, I am left doing this

:egads:

[AusS2000]

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Originally posted by beroznikmal
AusS2000 & honda9krpm should move to MAS, USA and get married.....Hell they already argue like a married couple..... all the time!!!!!
:)

LOL, tempting. What are the wife beating laws like there?

[kane.s2k]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by AusS2000

[kane.s2k]

When I first got my car wired up for the e-manage, I wanted to be sure the car would fire up right away without problems to test it out and check for oil leaks, so I turned off all the functions on the e-manage and didnt even set the injector compensation.

Less than 2 minutes of idling (didnt rev it once) and I got a CEL for too rich.

[AusS2000]

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Originally posted by honda9krpm
:iagree: you should have got the aem....it's probably a little bit easier to tune than the emanage.

:stupid:

Is this the same as when you said circuit racing is easier than drag racing?

[honda9krpm]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Slows2k
H9k, You have stated that someother S2ki user tried 440cc's, with the stock PCM.

[honda9krpm]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by AusS2000

[SKREEMR]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by kane.s2k

[honda9krpm]

chris, what do you think was the cause of this piston failure? too rich or too lean?

Idle AF ratio is around 13.9-14.7. Do you know what AF ratio the ECU start throwing a CEL? 13 or 12? Is this rich is enough to cause cat melt down?

Kane which injector did you use and did you get a chance to find out the AF ratio?

[Slows2k]

That piston was melted from running to lean due to a vacuum leak at the intake manifold.

Kane wans using 440's from the UR turbo kit. I don't beleive he had a wideband installed so what the AF# was is anyone's guess.

I don't have the spare $ to test when the convertor fails, I removed mine so I don't kill it while fuel tuning.

For the covertor to operate properly, the PCM must vary the AF from the Stoich # of 14.7. The (14.0-15.2 approx) in order for the convertor to work. I don't even know if the AEM EMS bothers to do so, as it is not emmisions legal.

BTW, you do know the AEM gauge wideband will not display a AF richer than 11.0

[ChipsterFL]

bigpurp,
I am buying a 2001 S2K that is set up much like yours and I wanted to chat with you via email about a couple of things. The Vortec and the Invidia are installed as well. Can you email me at ChipsterFL@aol.com?

Thanks,
Chip

[bigpurp]

^ Emails sent and replied. ;) Good luck with your choice, Chip.

[S2Kgonnabe]

I know this is a little late (4 pages maybe...sorry if this is a mute point), but better late than never, right?

the difference between 98 octane in Spain, and 93 octane in the states is only the way the octane rating was measured, not in the actual quality of the fuel:

"In most countries (including all of Europe and Australia) the 'headline' octane that would be shown on the pump is the RON: but in the United States and some other countries the headline number is in fact the average of the RON and the MON, sometimes called the "Road Octane Number" or RON. Because of the 10 point difference noted above this means that the octane in the United States will be about 5 points lower than the same fuel elsewhere: 87 octane fuel in the United States would be 92 in Europe."
--- taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrol

This post has been edited by S2Kgonnabe: 13 December 2004 - 09:47 AM