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#1 User is offline   Venomous S 

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 02:22 AM

Before this one I encountered a blue fox body mustang. He was up ahead a few cars. I could hear his exhaust, very loud. So when the light changed I went and passed him rather quick just to let him know that i wanted to have some fun. But I slowed down again to wait for him as he had a few cars in front of him. So I wait and hes coming and hes coming fast. I am expecting him to slow down as well so we can roll, but no, he does a Ford fly-by so im like great, how cute. so now im playing catch up about 3 cars out, while he sticking his hand out waving good bye, what an as*. But he shouldnt have done that cause by 115 I was passing him so this time I waved him good bye. Then the guy turned off, I actually wanted to pull over and see his face. I mean why the cocky attitude to then look like an as*.

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WRX was in front of me racing a Supra. A non-turbo supra as I found out later. so I was just keeping up to the WRX as the supra was just not too fast. So then I catch his attention and then its on

from about 40 he gets the jump and is now about a 1/2 car ahead. But I am catching up to him moderately and by some really high triple digits I pass him.

We go again now from a 20 mile roll with even starts to about 120. with every gear change I keep gaining on him until im about a car length on him. then I slowed down. He later told me he took his car to 150.

So we pull over and start talking and he tells me hes pushing about 20lb boost. im like holy crap but he will be running 24 lb boost w/ race maps. He liked my car and said that he thought he was gonna stomp me, that he looked to the side and I was still there with him. It was funny when he said it. so I told him well its a sleeper and i bet you thought I was stock.

the only thing Im not clear on is the boost. 20lb??. I mean he is pushing that much boost and I still edged him out? How heavy can those WRX get?
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Posted 06 June 2004 - 11:10 AM

I doubt you can run 20psi on the stock turbo. My guess would be a very small upgraded turbo. I believe they weigh about 3200lbs. Nice run.
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Posted 06 June 2004 - 01:15 PM

Well there are always 2 sides to every story. Since I am the guy you raced heres mine:

We had 3 races.

1st One: We were both going about 60mph and we hit it and at 130mph you were still behind me. Not by much but around my rear bumper before we shut down. You surpriesed the sh$% out of me.

2nd one: we were at around 40mph and you jumped the honk and by 120mph-130mph you had me by a car or so. I was playing catch up the whole time.

3rd race: we go from 40mph and I immediately pulled and by 120mph you gave up and shut down and I kept going. I had u by at least 1 car by the time you shutdown.

4th race: We both shut down early due to traffic. Doesnt count.

I was very suprised by your car until I learned that it was s/c. I almost bought one and I like the s2000 very much. I was running 21lbs of boost on my bigger turbo. I told you that depending on what gear we were in and what mph it would be a drivers race. But as far as you killing me well...I wouldnt bet on it. My car for ref. weighs 3085 lbs and I did have a passenger in the car to where you didnt. Im not flaming just telling my side of the story. I do have a witness though :D ....Good run man Im sure we'll meet up again...I'll be sure to switch up my map this time ;)

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 01:19 PM

Oh and ps: I told you it was a great sleeper.:D and it is.

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 01:21 PM

Definately an upgraded Turbo..

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 02:03 PM

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Definately an upgraded Turbo..

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oh yes, it was.... The WRX's stocker is too small for its own good... Kinda like the ones VW fits as stock equipment on the 1.8T's

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 02:07 PM

I would have gotten killed w/ a stock turbo no matter what my other mods...

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 03:33 PM

hey man

I just have to say that I dont disagree with any of what you said. First of all it was late and I didnt want to go in to so much detail. too tired too explain everything that went down. But i didnt say I killed you, all I said I edged you out which means by not a whole lot and yeah there were without a doubt variables that were not consistent as all street races are. And yeah the second race I actually was going to ask you about the horn in our conversation, I wasnt sure what happened, your horn was not too loud over my revs with my windows up so I guess I heard 3 honks and I went. In one of the races I told you that my car had the handling blues so i had to slow down. dont really want to count that if I recall I had to shut down by 90 or so. And which race was that when I was passing you by at some hi triple digits or did you already shut down? well I guess we were going for top end though, 1/4 mile long gone. and yeah a sick run by all means.

Like I told you before though your car was different from other races I had. I guess we were both surprised, 2 sleepers next to each other. Your car looks no different than any other except for under the hood which is what kept me saying holy damn that thing has big balls :D
I actually wanted to go from that light but I guess you turned off somewhere, I didnt see you anymore.
like I said keep it running for more fun. and yeah next time youll have your race maps, and what do I have? :D Dont make me go into my saving account damn it :D. Dont wanna blow it up this summer.
yeah defenitely good runs on both parts.
later
PS. oh yeah and the boost thing just amazes me at how much boost those things can take... wish i was running that much boost on mine...

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Well there are always 2 sides to every story.

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 04:22 PM

I think the WRXs 17psi of boost stock to begin with. I could be mistaken tho.

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 04:49 PM

A stock wrx boosts around 14 peak psi. THats on a very small snail though.

You and I will have to meet up again and have some more fun. It was a very cool race. I cant really go for the sleeper aspect anymore though. My carbon fiber hood and huge front mount intercooler kinda give it away.

Oh and my user name is just that it has no bearing on my actual times. I should be mid to low 12's right now...Gotta love AWD...


The second race I had to shut down a little early beacuse I told you my chip was pulling timing...So why keep going. You are right though great runs.

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 04:50 PM

nice run. :thumbup:

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 06:16 PM

Nice run!
13secwrx, what kind of turbo are you running?
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Posted 06 June 2004 - 06:37 PM

Forced performance ported 18g. I have alot more potential but I didnt want to psuh it on my stock block/tranny.

My friend has an s2000w/ an ultimate racing turbo kit but I havent talked to him in a long time. I wonder if hes on here ? Its yellow and hes from connecticut. Anyone know him ?

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 07:40 PM

Very nice runs, sounds like fun. I have yet to see a WRX that wants to race, we had one rev on us one time and kinda jump ahead, but we were in the EVO, I think he wanted to see it run, since when we floored it, he just stayed back.

13sec...sounds like a nice WRX you have there. We looked at the WRX and the STi before settleing on the EVO. I would imagine at 24 psi on an 18G turbo you could make some serious hp. We had a 20G TD06 on our MR2 and at 11 psi we were making 258 rwhp. I definitely agree at 24 psi you would beat the S, especially if its that close right now. Oh well, play safe :)
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Posted 06 June 2004 - 07:42 PM

Sounded like fun!!! That's a race when you hit 150 considering both cars are capable of climbing to those speeds in the quickness... Nice Kill - Hardtutame...

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 07:45 PM

btw, props to both. :thumbup:

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 10:26 PM

Yeah 310whp and 300tq at 21psi
341 whp adn 337 tq at 25 psi...
I was on 21 psi...We should do it again on 25 psi ;)

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 10:59 PM

are you telling me your drivetrian can handle this much power? is the wrx in the us any differ to the oz one?

most 13 sec wrx in australia broke their boxes and drive shafts easily?
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Posted 06 June 2004 - 11:59 PM

I granny shift and never launch...so far mine is ok... I lose a bit becasue I dont power shift but its worth it to be able to drive it home after the race...:D

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Posted 07 June 2004 - 12:06 AM

How much boost does the Vortech SC put out on the S? I thought it was about 8-10psi? Weird how the S puts down around 280-300whp with 8-10psi and the WRX puts down 310whp with 21psi. Imagine the S with 25psi (if it wouldn't blow up)??

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Posted 07 June 2004 - 12:07 AM

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most 13 sec wrx in australia broke their boxes and drive shafts easily?


If you drive the car like you stole it at those power levels, you break something... Treat it like your girlfriend, and she'll be there for you to take you home after the races are over
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Posted 07 June 2004 - 12:11 AM

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Imagine the S with 25psi (if it wouldn't blow up)??


I doubt that even a built engine with the S2K's stock CR would stand up to that much boost on pump or pump gas on a decent sized turbo..

The S2K's high CR is the reason why it gains MAJOR power with very little boost.. It is also the reason why the S2K won't be able to run such high boost levels safely.. It runs into detonation....

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Posted 07 June 2004 - 12:21 AM

Nice runs guys!! Where did you guys run? Near DPA?
It seems like I won't be able to keep up with your S if you're keeping up with a FP18g WRX.
13secWRX, have you run with a STi yet? How much faster are you than the STi? I only have a catless turboback on mine, just curious how bad you'd kill me. Oh yah, and how's your tranny?

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Posted 07 June 2004 - 12:47 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by jigga009


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Posted 07 June 2004 - 12:08 PM

Good run guys! I would think that the 13 sec rex would put a couple cars on the STI, just from previous experience. I know it wouldn't be too bad.
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