What do you guys think about 0W-30
05-17-2008, 11:59 PM
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What do you guys think about 0W-30
Hey there guys as stated above what do you guys think about the new
Mobil1 0W-30 advanced fuel economy??? As for the gas price jumping everyday every week. This might not be a bad idea. I am currently running this in my s2000 and i think its working pretty good. Feels smoother, feels like it just want to go. I wonder if it really does help save with the fuel
Here is the product sheet:
Product Description
Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is an advanced high performance synthetic engine oil designed to deliver outstanding engine protection and enhanced fuel economy. Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy exceeds the requirements of the latest industry standards and outperforms conventional oils. Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is recommended for SAE 0W-30, 5W-30 and 10W-30 applications.
Features and Benefits
Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is engineered with a proprietary blend of high performance synthetic basestocks fortified with the Supersyn anti-wear component system. The low friction, fully synthetic formulation increases engine efficiency and offers outstanding fuel economy. Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy provides the high-temperature protection of 5W-30 and 10W-30 oils while offering improved fuel economy. Key features and benefits include:
Features
Advantages and Potential Benefits
Low friction, fully synthetic formula Helps to increase engine efficiency and improve fuel economy up to 2%, based on a comparison versus those grades most commonly used. Actual savings are dependent upon vehicle/engine type, outside temperature, driving conditions, and your current engine oil viscosity.
Outstanding thermal and oxidation stability Reduces oil aging resulting in longer lasting protection
Outstanding low temperature capabilities Quick cold weather starting and fast protection helps extend engine life
Supersyn antiwear component system Excellent overall lubrication and wear protection performance for all driving styles and conditions where a 5W-30, 10W-30 or 0W-30 is recommended
Applications
Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is recommended for SAE 0W-30, 5W-30 and 10W-30 applications in all types of modern gasoline fueled passenger cars, SUVs, vans and light trucks.
Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is engineered to deliver outstanding engine protection and improved fuel economy.
Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is recommended for extreme cold conditions to deliver quick starts and fast lubrication.
Mobil 1 is not recommended for 2-Cycle or aviation engines, unless specifically approved by the manufacturer.
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Specifications and Approvals
Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy meets or exceeds the following industry specifications
ACEA A1,B1
API SM,SL,SJ,EC,CF
ILSAC GF4
Ford WWS WSS -M2C929-A
General Motors GM 4718M,GM6094M
Chrysler MS 6395
Typical Properties
Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy
SAE Grade 0W-30
Viscosity, ASTM D 445
cSt @ 40
Mobil1 0W-30 advanced fuel economy??? As for the gas price jumping everyday every week. This might not be a bad idea. I am currently running this in my s2000 and i think its working pretty good. Feels smoother, feels like it just want to go. I wonder if it really does help save with the fuel
Here is the product sheet:
Product Description
Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is an advanced high performance synthetic engine oil designed to deliver outstanding engine protection and enhanced fuel economy. Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy exceeds the requirements of the latest industry standards and outperforms conventional oils. Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is recommended for SAE 0W-30, 5W-30 and 10W-30 applications.
Features and Benefits
Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is engineered with a proprietary blend of high performance synthetic basestocks fortified with the Supersyn anti-wear component system. The low friction, fully synthetic formulation increases engine efficiency and offers outstanding fuel economy. Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy provides the high-temperature protection of 5W-30 and 10W-30 oils while offering improved fuel economy. Key features and benefits include:
Features
Advantages and Potential Benefits
Low friction, fully synthetic formula Helps to increase engine efficiency and improve fuel economy up to 2%, based on a comparison versus those grades most commonly used. Actual savings are dependent upon vehicle/engine type, outside temperature, driving conditions, and your current engine oil viscosity.
Outstanding thermal and oxidation stability Reduces oil aging resulting in longer lasting protection
Outstanding low temperature capabilities Quick cold weather starting and fast protection helps extend engine life
Supersyn antiwear component system Excellent overall lubrication and wear protection performance for all driving styles and conditions where a 5W-30, 10W-30 or 0W-30 is recommended
Applications
Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is recommended for SAE 0W-30, 5W-30 and 10W-30 applications in all types of modern gasoline fueled passenger cars, SUVs, vans and light trucks.
Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is engineered to deliver outstanding engine protection and improved fuel economy.
Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is recommended for extreme cold conditions to deliver quick starts and fast lubrication.
Mobil 1 is not recommended for 2-Cycle or aviation engines, unless specifically approved by the manufacturer.
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Specifications and Approvals
Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy meets or exceeds the following industry specifications
ACEA A1,B1
API SM,SL,SJ,EC,CF
ILSAC GF4
Ford WWS WSS -M2C929-A
General Motors GM 4718M,GM6094M
Chrysler MS 6395
Typical Properties
Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy
SAE Grade 0W-30
Viscosity, ASTM D 445
cSt @ 40
05-18-2008, 10:05 AM
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I bought some. It's still 30 weight so once warm it has the same properties as 5 and 10/30 from what I can deduce. But, it is thinner when cold so it should help engine wear during cold startups.
05-18-2008, 06:52 PM
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The Advanced Fuel Economy badge is really nothing more than marketing designed to capitalize on current gas prices - it's like shooting fish in a barrel! You will not likely see much of a gas mileage improvement - especially during the summer months. You may see slightly better gas mileage in the colder months though (if you live where it gets cold).
Standard Mobil 1 is notorious for higher consumption, and this oil is not likely to be any better - which will cost you more in the long run. The overall viscosity of this oil is thinner than a 10W30 - regardless if it's badged as a "30 weight".
Mobil 1 is not alone in this market as Amsoil has pushed their 0W30 lines (previously their Series 2000 and now their "Signature Series" oils) with the same promise of improved gas mileage. I used it (Series 2000 back then) for one oil change in my S2000 back in 2004 - and then switched back. My oil consumption went up slightly, the oil was a lot more expensive, and my mileage didn't improve noticeably. Changing your driving habits is the best way to reduce your fuel consumption.
I don't think this oil will hurt your car - but you need to really monitor your oil consumption closely.
Standard Mobil 1 is notorious for higher consumption, and this oil is not likely to be any better - which will cost you more in the long run. The overall viscosity of this oil is thinner than a 10W30 - regardless if it's badged as a "30 weight".
Mobil 1 is not alone in this market as Amsoil has pushed their 0W30 lines (previously their Series 2000 and now their "Signature Series" oils) with the same promise of improved gas mileage. I used it (Series 2000 back then) for one oil change in my S2000 back in 2004 - and then switched back. My oil consumption went up slightly, the oil was a lot more expensive, and my mileage didn't improve noticeably. Changing your driving habits is the best way to reduce your fuel consumption.
I don't think this oil will hurt your car - but you need to really monitor your oil consumption closely.
05-18-2008, 11:01 PM
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slipstream444 Posted on May 19 2008, 04:52 AM
You should know better 
There is no such thing as "A 10W-30 grade oil"
They are all different, there are 10W-30 grade oils that are thinner (10.5 cSt) and thicker (12.1 cSt) and I just looked at the Castrol site.
This 0W-30 grade oil is thinner when cold but just as thick - or thin
- at operating temp.
IOW: no problem
My Shell 0W-30 is around 9.6 cSt, and the UOA confirmed it actually thickened a bit to 10.2 cSt. after 19800 km.
That said, I didn't do a VOA so it might have been 10.2 all along as that margin probabaly is within production range.
Check oil level frequently regardless of type of oil used
The overall viscosity of this oil is thinner than a 10W30 - regardless if it's badged as a "30 weight".
There is no such thing as "A 10W-30 grade oil"
They are all different, there are 10W-30 grade oils that are thinner (10.5 cSt) and thicker (12.1 cSt) and I just looked at the Castrol site.
This 0W-30 grade oil is thinner when cold but just as thick - or thin
- at operating temp.IOW: no problem
My Shell 0W-30 is around 9.6 cSt, and the UOA confirmed it actually thickened a bit to 10.2 cSt. after 19800 km.
That said, I didn't do a VOA so it might have been 10.2 all along as that margin probabaly is within production range.
Check oil level frequently regardless of type of oil used
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05-20-2008, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by slipstream444,May 19 2008, 02:01 AM
Spitfire - quite true. It was a simplistic post at best.
It's no secret I'm not a fan of Mobil 1's current offerings, and this new oil smells of nothing but marketing. Their EP and Delvac lines are decent - but their standard lines are marketing and little more.
Unfortunately, the U.S. market currently doesn't offer as many high quality oils as the European market - to include the lineup of Castrol oils. The Shell synthetic you use is another good oil that I wish was readily available here. If the U.S. market offered more of these oils, the competition would drive better technology in motor oils. Instead, the best oils here are made by small companies and are not as easily purchased or found (according to those that don't like ordering online at least). For whatever reason - American's have to see it on a shelf at Walmart, Sams Club, or a Costco to buy it. Still haven't figured that one out yet.
It's no secret I'm not a fan of Mobil 1's current offerings, and this new oil smells of nothing but marketing. Their EP and Delvac lines are decent - but their standard lines are marketing and little more.
Unfortunately, the U.S. market currently doesn't offer as many high quality oils as the European market - to include the lineup of Castrol oils. The Shell synthetic you use is another good oil that I wish was readily available here. If the U.S. market offered more of these oils, the competition would drive better technology in motor oils. Instead, the best oils here are made by small companies and are not as easily purchased or found (according to those that don't like ordering online at least). For whatever reason - American's have to see it on a shelf at Walmart, Sams Club, or a Costco to buy it. Still haven't figured that one out yet.
Which do you prefer between Amsoil and Redline?
05-20-2008, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by earri,May 20 2008, 11:08 AM
Slipstream444
Which do you prefer between Amsoil and Redline?
Which do you prefer between Amsoil and Redline?
Redline currently produces the best "5W40" motor oil - although it's specs look like a 10W40 rather than a 5W40. Marketing to move into the German market that requires a 5W40? The numbers would suggest so.
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Another reason most people dont buy Amsoil or Redline is the high cost. Mobil 1 synthetic costs about $22 for a five quart jug, Castrol Syntec about the same but usually a little higher. Both have worked well for me, as well as regular castrol and Valvoline oil. Even the cheapo Super tech oil from Wal Fart has done ok in beater cars. I also dont use ultra thin viscosity oils in the summer. I always use 15w50 synthetic or in high miles beater cars, 20w50 castrol. I am sure both Amsoil and Redline are better oils but not worth double the price (at least seems like it) when a cheaper oil works just as fine for the street.
