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Unofficial Count of (US) S2000's by year, exterior color, interior color,

#1 User is offline   patinum 

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 01:03 AM

Using an excel spreadsheet, knowledge of VIN numbers, the Honda Ownerlink Website, and some automation software, I was able to calculate the breakdown of US S2000's by year, color, interior, and trim (CR or base). My numbers should not be considered official or exact in any way but I believe they are very close. This is for US production only. This will not necessarily match up with sales numbers by year (since they are production numbers). Details on how I figured out the breakdown and potential pitfalls are below.

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Interesting Stats:
Total S2000's - 66,860
Total AP1's - 36,968
Total AP2's - 29,892
Total CR's (including those w/o a/c and audio) - 699
Total CR's without a/c and audio - 59
First S2000 - MY00 serial #27
Last S2000 - MY09 serial #357
Last S2000 from Tochigi - MY04 serial #6062 (11th digit of VIN = "T")
First S2000 from Suzuka - MY04 serial #1 (11th digit of VIN = "S")
Most common color - Silverstone (18,814)
Least common color - Apex Blue (200)
Most common color combination - Silverstone / Black (13,261)
Least common color combination - Grand Prix White / Yellow/Black (90)
Black Interiors - 47208
Blue Interiors - 6148
Red Interiors - 6986
Red/Black Interiors - 3896
Tan Interiors - 1923
Yellow/Black Interiors - 699
*I'm still a bit confused on specifically what years offered all red interior and what years offered red/black. Designation of "Red" or "Red/Black" is, for now, directly off what the Honda Ownerlink Website lists.

How I got the numbers:
I started to try to find the number of CR's produced. I came across this thread concerning what the NSX and Type-R guys went through: http://www.honda-tec...d.php?t=1492748. It involved listing out all the VIN's for those vehicles and checking them against the Honda Ownerlink website. The ownerlink website will tell you the year, make, model, trim, and color of your vehicle if it is a VIN in their system.

I came up with all the VIN's for 2008 (which is quite easy if you understand how VIN's work) and used some automation software to enter in the VIN's into the Honda website and save the results. After I figured out how many CR's were produced, I realized that with some small tweaks to the automation process, I could get a complete breakdown for the entire S2000 (US) production.

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VIN's tell a lot about a car and since the S2000 is a relatively low production car with few options I was able to compile a list of all potential VIN's. All S2000 VIN's will start with JHMAP#1 - this says they are Japan Honda Motors, AP1 or AP2, manual transmission). The next digit will be a 4 for base trim models and 2 for CR. The next digit is a check digit calculated from the the digits in the vin. This is then followed by the model year, production plant (T for Tochigi or S for Suzuka), then serial #.

There are a lot of missing VIN's from the early serial numbers for MY00, MY04, and MY06 leading me to my guess that these vehicles are crash or epa test vehicles (new body styles, engine, dbw). There are some missing VIN's scattered among regular S2000 production as well. By missing VIN's I'm referring to VIN's that came up as invalid when entered into Honda Ownerlink.

Potential for mistakes:
1) Honda ownerlink website and/or database is wrong
2) automation software "hiccuped"
3) There are some missing VIN's. I believe these are cars that were produced but not distributed to the US population. My guess is they are crash or epa test vehicles, fell off the boat, are in a museum, etc. I have no basis for these guesses
4) There may exist VIN's past the last vin I checked for the model year. Once I started to get a bunch of invalid vin's, I stopped looking for that year.
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 03:41 AM

Wow, really interesting stuff

Thanks :thumbup:
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 03:53 AM

Much thanks for the data. :thumbup:

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 03:57 AM

impressive!
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 04:40 AM

that's allot of data collected!!

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 07:11 AM

nice! thanks for sharing.
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 08:17 AM

Nice! 3 times more Silverstones than Sebrings.

I can now say I have "the rare silver" :) lol
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 09:03 AM

'02 and '03 were the only years that all red interior was offered. In '02 it was the silvers, white and black, and '03 it was just the silvers.
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 09:16 AM

Great info, someone should put this in the FAQ. Thanks for the work.
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 09:39 AM

Why the spike in sales in 2005 I wonder?

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 10:13 AM

2005 was a great year..the yr i bought mine :woot2:

thx for some great info :thumbup:

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 10:40 AM

This SO deserves a Sticky.
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 10:52 AM

Where's the donate button? This helps me a TON with coordinating the number of Keyhole Covers to paint in each color.
Thank you VERY much.

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 12:44 PM

wow the cr's are pretty rare huh
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 01:32 PM

Interesting.
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 01:33 PM

Great job of data mining! I'm sure the FBI are on their way after the DDOS attack you made on the ownerlink website. :D

What automation software did you use to do this? Did you create your own scripts, or something else?
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 01:57 PM

Glad you're finding this useful/interesting.

I'll update the red and red/black info sometime next week.

JS2k.com - I'd say you should send me some keyhole covers but I already have them :)

CR's are rare! 1% of S2000's. I'd love to have the 1 non-ac/radio version made for 2009. Doesn't hurt that it's white.

I wouldn't be surprised if Honda updated their website/servers to stop this type of thing from happening. Oh well, I got what I needed ;)

I used AutoHotKey - pretty simple yet versatile automation software (and free).



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Posted 11 September 2009 - 02:06 PM

WOW!
I wonder who the owner of the ONLY GPW CR w/o AC & Audio...
that would be cool to be able to say its the only one of its kind stateside

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 02:25 PM

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WOW!
I wonder who the owner of the ONLY GPW CR w/o AC & Audio...
that would be cool to be able to say its the only one of its kind stateside

Not just stateside. The CR only came to the US so it's really the only one of it's kinda in the world.

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 03:01 PM

Wow, nice work! This is an awesome contribution to the community :thumbup:
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 03:06 PM

This is freaking great. Definitely should be archived or something. Didn't know that silverstone was the only color available with black-red interior for 06. Makes my SSM seem a little special.

Great job bro!
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 03:23 PM

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Why the spike in sales in 2005 I wonder?

People were banking money at the time :thumbup:
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 03:26 PM

Great info

Thank You! :thumbup:

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 03:36 PM

Awesome data!

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 04:09 PM

damn silverstones dominate that spread sheet.
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