[cthree]

A commercial post is an advertisement for a business or individual acting as a business, promoting themselves or offering for sale a product or service appearing in user posted content including but not limited to forum messages, signatures, private messages and public profile information. If you put it on this site then it's user posted content.

Selling anything, be it for your business or self, is not permitted, see "The Rules", with the following exceptions:

1) Active members may sell personal property in the For Sale/Classified Marketplace forum(s);

2) Active Sponsors may promote their business or products in any forum but may only make unsolicited offers for retail sales in the Marketplace Sponsor's forums set aside for that use;

3) Advertising for events (bills) in any forum are permitted on the condition they are not too spammy. Spamminess TBD by the forum Moderators.

Sponsors are considered Members so they can post whatever Members can.

Other arrangements are possible. Please contact sales@s2ki.com to discuss your proposal.

[larrydarryldarryl]

http://www.s2ki.com/...stros-services/

seems to violate your advertising rules...

[HondaGal]

the policy is for the main forums. communities are run by CO's. If the CO's decide to allow commercial posting or services for members they may do so.

[larrydarryldarryl]

Seems to me, then, that the community organizers of each local forumm ought to be required to post those rules...

[cthree]

Ask them; they will tell you; you will know.

[GT Motoring]

cthree, on 08 July 2011 - 08:12 AM, said:

Ask them; they will tell you; you will know.

Actually, its the community organizer that is soliciting... lol. not sure thats a good idea.

[larrydarryldarryl]

I have asked the community organizers, with no response. I think the policy ought to apply to all forums or none at all.

[itS2Krazy]

larrydarryldarryl, on 06 July 2011 - 10:21 PM, said:

Seems to me, then, that the community organizers of each local forumm ought to be required to post those rules...

I agree. This should be a fair rule that applies to all. Why make some up to CO's?

GT Motoring, on 13 July 2011 - 07:15 PM, said:

cthree, on 08 July 2011 - 08:12 AM, said:

Ask them; they will tell you; you will know.

Actually, its the community organizer that is soliciting... lol. not sure thats a good idea.

I agree.

[macr88]

Be happy that you had the chance to build a customer base.
You were at one point part of the community but unfortunately that has slipped passed you, the last meet you showed up to was like two years ago.
At this point it isn't fair to anyone for you to continue to gain from S2Ki when nothing is given in return.

It shouldn't be a place of business, it should be a place of fun and friends, a community.

[JDMProductions]

macr88, on 24 February 2012 - 04:02 AM, said:

Be happy that you had the chance to build a customer base.
You were at one point part of the community but unfortunately that has slipped passed you, the last meet you showed up to was like two years ago.
At this point it isn't fair to anyone for you to continue to gain from S2Ki when nothing is given in return.

It shouldn't be a place of business, it should be a place of fun and friends, a community.

Great way to support the sponsors who keep the board all of us love online.
In my opinion going to track days is not a way to give back to the community at all.
Innovation, customer service, knowledge willing to be shared, quality parts. Thats giving back to this community.

Comments like yours hurt it.

Oh, just in case you were unaware, the BUSINESS that is now in control of S2KI profits twelve million a year.

I am only giving my input because someone has to realize that businesses are necessary to keep THIS COMMUNITY alive and thriving. Businesses are what keep it moving forward.

[macr88]

JDMProductions, on 26 February 2012 - 12:50 PM, said:

Great way to support the sponsors who keep the board all of us love online.
In my opinion going to track days is not a way to give back to the community at all.
Innovation, customer service, knowledge willing to be shared, quality parts. Thats giving back to this community.

Comments like yours hurt it.

Oh, just in case you were unaware, the BUSINESS that is now in control of S2KI profits twelve million a year.

I am only giving my input because someone has to realize that businesses are necessary to keep THIS COMMUNITY alive and thriving. Businesses are what keep it moving forward.

Let me know if my thought on this is incorrect, I'm definitely open to advice. I'm by no means a professional CO but I do try do what's fair.

My last comment about it not being about business is geared towards the individual communities, and that it's not fair for a non sponsor to be allowed to sell themselves especially when there already is a local forum sponsor

I'm not sure what the track day has to do with giving back

A business that isn't a sponsor and one that isn't part of the community or give anything back to it doesn't deserve to take from S2Ki especially when there's another shop who has consistently given back even before they were sponsors.

I'm not sure why anything I said would hurt? I'm all for supporting people who help S2K's, S2Ki and the community

[JDMProductions]

macr88, on 26 February 2012 - 07:36 PM, said:

JDMProductions, on 26 February 2012 - 12:50 PM, said:

Great way to support the sponsors who keep the board all of us love online.
In my opinion going to track days is not a way to give back to the community at all.
Innovation, customer service, knowledge willing to be shared, quality parts. Thats giving back to this community.

Comments like yours hurt it.

Oh, just in case you were unaware, the BUSINESS that is now in control of S2KI profits twelve million a year.

I am only giving my input because someone has to realize that businesses are necessary to keep THIS COMMUNITY alive and thriving. Businesses are what keep it moving forward.

Let me know if my thought on this is incorrect, I'm definitely open to advice. I'm by no means a professional CO but I do try do what's fair.

My last comment about it not being about business is geared towards the individual communities, and that it's not fair for a non sponsor to be allowed to sell themselves especially when there already is a local forum sponsor

I'm not sure what the track day has to do with giving back

A business that isn't a sponsor and one that isn't part of the community or give anything back to it doesn't deserve to take from S2Ki especially when there's another shop who has consistently given back even before they were sponsors.

I'm not sure why anything I said would hurt? I'm all for supporting people who help S2K's, S2Ki and the community

Ok, I do not think your train of though is incorrect. However, I believe it is easy for one to get the notion you are anti-business on s2ki, and anti-sponsor from reading the posts on the thread up to my my initial post. The back story helps as you have you have laid it out now.


I associated a track day with the CO mentioned "not attending any meets" recently. If I took this out of context I apologize.

I wholeheartedly agree with your second to last sentence. I worked very hard to get to the point to be able to pay for a sponsorship, and support this community. It frustrates me when I see members competing with me in business with no sponsorship.

We have te same thoughts. I really appreciate you responding.

[macr88]

My appologies, I should have quoted itS2Krazy because my reply was for him. He is not a sponsor and was promoting his business, his service thread was closed a little while ago but he feels it should have remained open. This appears to have ended our friendship but I just don't see how it's fair to the other shops in the area and especially to the new local sponsor.


You're welcome and sorry for the confusion

[eklipz98]

macr88, on 27 February 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

My appologies, I should have quoted itS2Krazy because my reply was for him. He is not a sponsor and was promoting his business, his service thread was closed a little while ago but he feels it should have remained open. This appears to have ended our friendship but I just don't see how it's fair to the other shops in the area and especially to the new local sponsor.


You're welcome and sorry for the confusion

itS2Krazy has given a ton of support to the community in terms of posting his knowledgeable responses to s2000 maintenance questions for many years. itS2Krazy has been treated unfairly because his shop was removed from the Bay Area California directory of shops (when literally 99% of the shops on that particular list are not paying sponsors of the site. I believe the removal of itS2Krazy's shop from the Bay Area California directory is a means of unnecessary censorship and selective filtering of the forms that serves to harm the community rather than to promote the community options for maintenance.

It is one thing to remove itS2Krazy's thread in the main forum (where he had hundreds of positive replies and feedback from satisfied customers over several years of service). It's a completely different thing to remove him from a list of possible shops to take your car if you live in this area.

This situation is fishy, and I think this issue needs to be resolved.

This is the directory I'm referring to:
http://www.s2ki.com/...T&f=18&t=728091

Furthermore, often times when a member posts a "where do I go to get ....xxx... service done", and there are lots of replies that don't include shops on our directory. The second itS2Krazy's shop is mentioned, the thread will get closed down or locked.

[Mocky]

eklipz98, on 28 March 2012 - 12:25 PM, said:

This is the directory I'm referring to:
http://www.s2ki.com/...T&f=18&t=728091

I talked to Mac about this. (where is the other CO btw?).. My understanding is since we are not creating another subforum in your Community, paying members who have services that are available to the members should be allowed to list their shop on this list. Mac, correct me on this if I'm wrong. This is, again, part of the Community so the rules of the Community may differ from the general forum.


Thanks

[macr88]

Correct

[eklipz98]

Based on my understanding following PMs with Mac, itS2Krazy "knows why he was deleted", but "all he needs to do is ask" to be added back to the directory. Is that correct?

[Mocky]

eklipz98, on 03 April 2012 - 12:05 PM, said:

Based on my understanding following PMs with Mac, itS2Krazy "knows why he was deleted", but "all he needs to do is ask" to be added back to the directory. Is that correct?

Correct (what Mac said)