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Hardrace Rear toe control arm(anti bump steer kit) offer

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 07:35 AM

We now have another 4 sets of rear toe control arm (also known as rear anti bump steer kit? with spherical bearing just landed to UK yesterday from Hardrace.

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They are now at £228 shipped

Both spherical bearing joint comes with 1 year warrantee and they are made by stainless steel not by normal mild steel like other make so they will last much longer and also give better handling performance.

We can also supply and fit at our shop with full Geo setup, please PM or email if interested.

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Posted 06 February 2011 - 02:37 PM

We now have the Hardrace rear toe arm back in stock! This is one of the strongest and best quality put together toe arm you can find in the market!

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Posted 06 February 2011 - 02:53 PM

Would be worth explaining the benefits, Dixon. I've just been doing some reading...

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Posted 06 February 2011 - 03:26 PM

Put it in a simple terms -

Stock Rubber bushes = Flex under load specially with Semi slick and aftermarket suspension with stiffer damper and more grip = more loads going into the suspension arm. When the rubber bush flex = change of Toe/Camber so you are not having the full benefit from your geometry as the toe is constantly changing under load.

With Spherical Bearing because there isn’t any Flex in the joint = Toe will be always the same so it means more stable handling and consistence feel corner after corner.

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Posted 06 February 2011 - 03:47 PM

Yep stops the nasty Rear wheel steer effect, makes the back end much more direct under cornering! I had the rws removed on my last S via hardening up the toe bushes, but this goes a step further. I'm interested :D

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Posted 06 February 2011 - 04:16 PM

Dixon fitted these for me before I went to Spa.

Also, done the geo which I was a bit apprehensive about, with only 5 minutes either side rear toe, Dixon assured me that it would be OK:thumbup: It was the best mod and geo set up I had on the car.

When I put the car back to standard the difference was night and day.

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Posted 06 February 2011 - 05:17 PM

Yes we give a completely different geo setup on the car with Spherical arms as there is no flex in the joint so we don’t need to put as much toe in to it as the rear toe won’t come out under acceleration.

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Posted 06 February 2011 - 05:28 PM

On the BMW I've only have 1 min either side but I think they toe in under acceleration.

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Posted 06 February 2011 - 05:48 PM

CSL and all E46 M3 have Spherical bearing bushes on most of the rear suspension arms inc the toe and camber arms.

All M3 toe out under acceleration an toe in under braking but by not much because of the spherical bearing bushes, you will ended up in a bit of trouble under braking if its the other way round.

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 01:45 AM

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 04:11 AM

How much for the RTCA, fitting, and Fast road alignment by DMS?

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 01:46 PM

We can do it for £400 inc vat all fitted Inc geo setup and the arms.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 02:03 PM

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 03:16 PM

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Yep stops the nasty Rear wheel steer effect, makes the back end much more direct under cornering! I had the rws removed on my last S via hardening up the toe bushes, but this goes a step further. I'm interested :D

I think you are a little confused Mark. Stiffening the bushes will make the RWS WORSE! The rubber is MEANT to flex. Obviously a spherical bearing provides a full range of motion throught an accurate range. This is beneficial because as the loci of the arm shortens the horizontal distance, the bearing can move freely through a small but significan horizontal arc, thus it allow the toe to remain unchanged :)
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 04:23 PM

Thanks for the fast reply!

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 05:05 PM

Possibly not, Ron. IIRC Hardrace come with hardened / non compliant bushes with them, which IME removes the RWS effect. Chris Franklin tried some Mugen ones on my last S, and completely removed the RWS effect.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 06:26 PM

Well, the Hardrace ones pictured don't have bushes, they have spherical bearings. Infact, they look identical (and probably are) to the Megan ones I have on my car. The bearings allow for free movement in ANY plane. Bushes don't.

The RWS effect was probably removed by means of a geometry change at the same time as you fitted the bushes.

Please examine the rear suspension and note the slight angle differntiation from the lower arm to the toe arm. Then look at the loci of each and you will understand why spherical bearings remove the RWS effect.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 02:47 AM

I can't see the pic on my work PC, but I guess it does say spherical on the first post.

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 07:31 PM

4 more stock came in today, new design with much stronger forged spherical bearing ends to provide much longer durability and consistency. And good thing is price is the same :)

With spherical bearing ends that's mean the rear toe will always stays in the same position under braking and accelerating, that's mean you can run alot less toe at the rear but still have a very solid backend. unlike the oem rubber arm the toe will come out under acceleration so you have to put more rear toe in to keep the rear end stable and this will caused inner side tyre wear.

You can buy directly from our online shop www.racepartshop.com or pm me for mail order

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Posted 24 June 2011 - 04:23 AM

I'm enjoying mine :)

Do they need any maintenance?

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Posted 24 June 2011 - 06:06 AM

Not much really, they are good enough to give us one year unlimited warrantee so they must have confident in what they made, they are all stainless and Your been greased when we had that put on, next time when you come in we will regrease it for you just to make sure they are nice and smooth.

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 09:18 AM

Some new photos of the new rear toe arm design

The main adjustment shaft itself is 3mm thicker and both end now have rubber boot to cover up to prevent dust and dirt to go in there, you can also put some grease inside the rubber boot and it won't wash away by the water on the road.

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New Rubber boot to protect the Spherical bearing inside.

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All in stock now and have 4 available.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 03:32 AM

I will be ordering these through your website in the next few days, just to be clear, these are still priced at £213? Just wondering as the picture on the website shows the older version. Also, how much for delivery to Dublin? Cheers...

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 06:31 AM

Yep price still the same, it will be the new design. You can order it directly from the online shop, delivery should be around £20.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 08:25 AM

Toe arm only have 1 left but will have 4 more coming next week also with Anti bump steer spacers, drivershaft spacers kit.

Whatelse do you guys need? I can order it in and make a special offer for you to try it out.

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