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AEM ems vs Hondata

Poll: what tuning system do you run? (426 member(s) have cast votes)

What tuning system do you run and prefer?

  1. AEM EMS (217 votes [50.94%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 50.94%

  2. Hondata (186 votes [43.66%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 43.66%

  3. Other (23 votes [5.40%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.40%

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#1 User is offline   pettyboy69 

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 04:26 PM

Im in the process of building a turbo setup for my s2k. I completed my sidewinder manifold yesterday and i picked up a innovative 67mm turbo a couple weeks back. I am at a stand still on what tuning system is the best suited system for my goals and the most user friendly. The car is a DD and i am shooting for the 400whp range this year and maybe later in the year or begging of next shooting for the 500whp range. I have heard good about both Hondata and EMS but i wanted to see what all of you thought and your imput on the systems you have used and what you like and dislike.

Also i was curious if you retain Cruise and AC with ems?

thanx for all the imput and suggestions please don't post if you don't have personal experience with the tuning systems mentioned im also open to other tuning systems just looking for the best bang for the buck

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 09:52 PM

 pettyboy69, on 22 March 2011 - 04:26 PM, said:

Im in the process of building a turbo setup for my s2k. I completed my sidewinder manifold yesterday and i picked up a innovative 67mm turbo a couple weeks back. I am at a stand still on what tuning system is the best suited system for my goals and the most user friendly. The car is a DD and i am shooting for the 400whp range this year and maybe later in the year or begging of next shooting for the 500whp range. I have heard good about both Hondata and EMS but i wanted to see what all of you thought and your imput on the systems you have used and what you like and dislike.

Also i was curious if you retain Cruise and AC with ems?

thanx for all the imput and suggestions please don't post if you don't have personal experience with the tuning systems mentioned im also open to other tuning systems just looking for the best bang for the buck


This has been covered 10000000 times

both work well and will do what you need, but they are both junk if not tuned properly. Find a good tuner and use what they recommend.

You only loose obd2 with the v2 aem, if you go with the older aem ems you also loose the coolant temp gauge unless you buy the modifry unit.
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Posted 24 March 2011 - 05:36 PM

 wadzii, on 23 March 2011 - 09:52 PM, said:

 pettyboy69, on 22 March 2011 - 04:26 PM, said:

Im in the process of building a turbo setup for my s2k. I completed my sidewinder manifold yesterday and i picked up a innovative 67mm turbo a couple weeks back. I am at a stand still on what tuning system is the best suited system for my goals and the most user friendly. The car is a DD and i am shooting for the 400whp range this year and maybe later in the year or begging of next shooting for the 500whp range. I have heard good about both Hondata and EMS but i wanted to see what all of you thought and your imput on the systems you have used and what you like and dislike.

Also i was curious if you retain Cruise and AC with ems?

thanx for all the imput and suggestions please don't post if you don't have personal experience with the tuning systems mentioned im also open to other tuning systems just looking for the best bang for the buck


This has been covered 10000000 times

both work well and will do what you need, but they are both junk if not tuned properly. Find a good tuner and use what they recommend.

You only loose obd2 with the v2 aem, if you go with the older aem ems you also loose the coolant temp gauge unless you buy the modifry unit.

Ya i have read the different threads but no one on any of them uses their personal experience as an example to argue one or the other. The biggest thing i dont like about aem is you loose you CEL so if you have an issue it is a lot more time consuming to figure out. Im very happy that v2 allows you to keep all your stock sensors tho. I want people that have tuned on both systems to point out the technical pro's and con's they noticed with each of the systems because im gonna be spending over a grand on either system and i think it is the little quirks about each system that will help me to decide which system to ultimately go with because i know both systems are good

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Posted 24 March 2011 - 06:24 PM

 wadzii, on 23 March 2011 - 09:52 PM, said:


both work well and will do what you need, but they are both junk if not tuned properly. Find a good tuner and use what they recommend.


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Posted 26 March 2011 - 03:04 PM

alright well i guess im gonna go with ems it is better priced and my tuner is cool with either system

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 03:11 PM

Can't beat aem series 1 in the standalone bang for the buck category.

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 06:08 PM

haltech looks promising too - I'd love to run an EMS for simplicity but Hondata unfortunately works better for a street car.

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Posted 17 April 2011 - 11:35 AM

Kpo FTW! You can pass emissions with it.
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Posted 19 April 2011 - 06:19 PM

 pettyboy69, on 24 March 2011 - 05:36 PM, said:

 wadzii, on 23 March 2011 - 09:52 PM, said:

 pettyboy69, on 22 March 2011 - 04:26 PM, said:

Im in the process of building a turbo setup for my s2k. I completed my sidewinder manifold yesterday and i picked up a innovative 67mm turbo a couple weeks back. I am at a stand still on what tuning system is the best suited system for my goals and the most user friendly. The car is a DD and i am shooting for the 400whp range this year and maybe later in the year or begging of next shooting for the 500whp range. I have heard good about both Hondata and EMS but i wanted to see what all of you thought and your imput on the systems you have used and what you like and dislike.

Also i was curious if you retain Cruise and AC with ems?

thanx for all the imput and suggestions please don't post if you don't have personal experience with the tuning systems mentioned im also open to other tuning systems just looking for the best bang for the buck


This has been covered 10000000 times

both work well and will do what you need, but they are both junk if not tuned properly. Find a good tuner and use what they recommend.

You only loose obd2 with the v2 aem, if you go with the older aem ems you also loose the coolant temp gauge unless you buy the modifry unit.

Ya i have read the different threads but no one on any of them uses their personal experience as an example to argue one or the other. The biggest thing i dont like about aem is you loose you CEL so if you have an issue it is a lot more time consuming to figure out. Im very happy that v2 allows you to keep all your stock sensors tho. I want people that have tuned on both systems to point out the technical pro's and con's they noticed with each of the systems because im gonna be spending over a grand on either system and i think it is the little quirks about each system that will help me to decide which system to ultimately go with because i know both systems are good

You can retain the CEL for a specific type of problem. I have mine set to light up when the coolant temp exceeds 210 since I don't have the modifry unit. You really can set it to whatever you want. I like the AEM unit. but if I was just starting out, I would try the hondata first.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 06:59 AM

 Duke Togo, on 11 April 2011 - 06:08 PM, said:

haltech looks promising too - I'd love to run an EMS for simplicity but Hondata unfortunately works better for a street car.


What makes it better for a street car? Factory use of CELs?

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 09:30 AM

Aem ems v1 ftw! Lose the cel? Who cares. If your doing this much change to a car u better know how to troubleshoot a problem.

I've been on aem ems v1 for near 3 years, many road trips, etc. It's all in the tune.
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Posted 10 May 2011 - 07:19 PM

both are great but it's very helpful to have a 2 step launch control and boost by gear. AEM has it's advantages and so does Hondata
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 02:00 PM

 camuman, on 08 May 2011 - 09:30 AM, said:

Aem ems v1 ftw! Lose the cel? Who cares. If your doing this much change to a car u better know how to troubleshoot a problem.

I've been on aem ems v1 for near 3 years, many road trips, etc. It's all in the tune.


Its all in the tune but for a daily driven boosted s2k I would definitely like the use of my obdII so i know when and where the problem is wherever i am..
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 07:42 PM

Batman,

What issues are you referring to?

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 08:25 PM

None specifically but if there's something wrong with the motor I would like to know as fast and effortlessly as possible.. My cars camshaft position sensor was unplugged slightly for some odd reason and my car shut off on the highway.. Luckily I used my hondata to diagnose what was wrong and when I pushed the plug in it clipped.. No more CEL.. I love the simplicity and functionality of the hondata while being able to keep the obdII..

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 08:28 PM

I'd rather have the engine do exactly what I tell it to do than have a CEL. With hondata its a crap-shoot if the engine is going to get what you put in the tables.

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 04:27 PM

 wadzii, on 16 May 2011 - 08:28 PM, said:

I'd rather have the engine do exactly what I tell it to do than have a CEL. With hondata its a crap-shoot if the engine is going to get what you put in the tables.


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Posted 25 May 2011 - 06:40 PM

the stock honda ecu applies many different trims and other things that you cant edit/control with kpro. There are many cases where the values in the fuel and ignition maps dont match the data-logs.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:04 PM

Yikes.

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 02:05 PM

 wadzii, on 25 May 2011 - 06:40 PM, said:

the stock honda ecu applies many different trims and other things that you cant edit/control with kpro. There are many cases where the values in the fuel and ignition maps dont match the data-logs.

where can i read more about this?

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 02:45 PM

KPRO is a great system, but I can forsee Hondata employees going on a killing rampage one day

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 12:53 AM

 Kyushin, on 31 May 2011 - 02:45 PM, said:

KPRO is a great system, but I can forsee Hondata employees going on a killing rampage one day


This. Anyone know how Spunkster's doing on the hondata forum? Seems like he answers all the questions and I'm SURE they're not all new questions lol

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 02:32 PM

The Haltech 'Pro' plug-in version will be out shortly. Some of the advanced features of this unit would be knock control, short and long term fuel correction, factory DTC's CEL's are supported, fully functional coolant temp gauge, separate fuel/ignition maps etc. for both low/high/VTEC cam operation, just to name a few.
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Posted 10 June 2011 - 12:15 PM

If it were not for emissions, I would have definitely went with AEM because they seem to listen to us more than Hondata who tells us to go F ourselves and keep everyting a secret like its coldwar intel.

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 02:27 PM

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