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#1 User is offline   rus21s 

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 05:16 AM

Hi Guys, got a stock AP1 03 s2000 and want 30rwhp

Im ordering a stage 2 brian crower cam, Hondata, and not sure what exhaust exactly. I want a good exhaust to make more power than the standard
as I dont care about noise but performance. Im in sydney and will go check out what liverpool exhaust can offer and dont want to get defected.
I also hear that is illegal to bash out the honey comb in the cat converter, by doung this it will add more horsepower as there are no restrictions.

Any thoughts on this and has anyone done a cam upgrade? Im hoping to get 30hp, I should be happy with it.

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 05:43 AM

As far as I know, 4.77 is the way to go.

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 05:44 AM

View Postvishes, on 04 December 2011 - 05:43 AM, said:

As far as I know, 4.77 is the way to go.


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Posted 04 December 2011 - 05:46 AM

Sorry what do you mean by 4.77?

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 05:54 AM

Hey rus21s,
what he meant by 4.77's is your Final Drive for your diff.

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 05:58 AM

Final drive wont affect him gaining 30rwhp though it is a worthwhile upgrade.

Mugen intake, j's headers, berk high flow cat (legal on the street unlike testpipe) and a 70mm exhaust with cams tuned on hondata youd be pretty happy but youd also run a nice bill lol.

My car had a similar setup produced 156 rwkws. not sure what it would have dynoed stock buts its noticebly faster than stock.

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 06:11 AM

Ok Thanks for that. Im in sydney and was going to speak to somone at liverpool exhaust, also where in sydney can i buy hondata? Parts like mugen can you buy them in sydney at a parts store or is everthing online?

For what im doing getting the Brian Crower stage 2 cam, does anyone have this?
Also guys does a K & N filter make a difference? Im running my car without the airbox top lid on cold days and it sounds great but suffers in hot days so i put the lid
back on.
Cheers.

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 06:29 AM

In regards to the cat, or no cat, j's racing sell test pipes (straight pipes) with heatshielding that makes them appear to be a proper catalytic converter.
So if someone was to look underneath your car they wouldnt know any better.

In regards to intake.....indivdual throttle bodies are the way to go, but they are expensive and supposedly quite hard to set up/ tune. I recon most snorkels would do a good job, but some require you to modify the bonnet to fit, imo though i wouldnt worry to much about intake though unless your just doing it for the noise other wise stick to headers, exhaust, cats and yeah the cam should help.

On another note, get some BC coilover's. and sticky rubber, say.....dunlop star spec's for example, and you will clean up any n/a s2000 with 50 more hp. (hopefully Dr.s2k doesnt read this)

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 06:50 AM

View Postbrendan1990, on 04 December 2011 - 06:29 AM, said:

On another note, get some BC coilover's. and sticky rubber, say.....dunlop star spec's for example, and you will clean up any n/a s2000 with 50 more hp. (hopefully Dr.s2k doesnt read this)



I'd say if you got the dough to spend get the Motons Mad's got up for sale =) they're a work of art. :drool:

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 06:57 AM

I cant see how coil overs will give me more power?

can you buy mugen exhaust in sydney and hondata?
If i bash out the cat inside why should i spend money on j's racing testpipe?

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 01:38 PM

Bash out the cat lol. It's not a VL commodore mate. Do it proper. You know hondata will run you around 3000 big ones once installed and tuned too right?

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 03:27 PM

K&N FIPK,best bang for the buck and its not super expensive as the mugen one
PLM header
Test pipe 70mm
Invidia single 70mm or any other 70mm single exhaust
And BC stage 2 cams,(i wanna get them so bad)with upgraded springs/retainers
either a KPRO OR AEM V2

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 04:42 PM

Thanks guys, Im not a fan of single exhaust but an exhaust place told me go 2 1/4 hope thats good enough for performance.
are there many quick N/a hondas around in sydney? I know turbo is the way to go but the reason im not interested is because
im worried the motor might die eventaully killing its life span and it will be hard to sell in the future and especially
good luck getting a trade inn.

Cheers
Russ

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 05:56 PM

Stroke it to 2.2 or 2.4 litres. No substitute for capacity. With the cams you will easily make your +30hp.
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Posted 04 December 2011 - 06:06 PM

Disconnect a couple of coil leads and you'll make 30hp.

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 06:14 PM

View Postrus21s, on 04 December 2011 - 06:57 AM, said:

I cant see how coil overs will give me more power?

can you buy mugen exhaust in sydney and hondata?
If i bash out the cat inside why should i spend money on j's racing testpipe?


there are a few stores in sydney that can get you hondata and mugen exhaust if you wanted them but expect to pay big coin for them brand new.

If you can I suggest you get the j's fx70rs dual ti exhaust :)

I went 60mm the first time since I was advise that 70mm was too big for my motor and well i did wish i went 70mm in the first place!
u want gains.. 70mm is the way to go as the others have said :)
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Posted 04 December 2011 - 06:22 PM

View Postaxus19, on 04 December 2011 - 03:27 PM, said:

K&N FIPK,best bang for the buck and its not super expensive as the mugen one
PLM header
Test pipe 70mm
Invidia single 70mm or any other 70mm single exhaust
And BC stage 2 cams,(i wanna get them so bad)with upgraded springs/retainers
either a KPRO OR AEM V2


can you get a PLM header to fit our cars.i thought they were only designed to fit american s2000's.if you can where can you buy them from

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 06:54 PM

View PostAusS2000, on 04 December 2011 - 06:06 PM, said:

Disconnect a couple of coil leads and you'll make 30hp.


Hahahahaha
Too fast for the street :P

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 08:56 PM

View Postrus21s, on 04 December 2011 - 06:57 AM, said:

I cant see how coil overs will give me more power?

If i bash out the cat inside why should i spend money on j's racing testpipe?


I don't want to be the first one on the thread to come across as cynical... but it sounds to me like some of the most valuable advice right now could be that that dropping clutch at the lights is to be done at your own (diff's) peril..

The above advice is top notch and I think a search would find you hundreds of recent threads on s2ki with similar advice, just note that power is only part of what makes these cars as quick as they are... which is why the advice regarding suspension, final drive and tyres is a lot more valuable than your response would imply.

Best of luck I/H/E/Cat/Cam changes either way.

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 09:03 PM

As someone who has been there/done that, best be ready for that feeling of disappointment. This car is very highly tuned from the factory, so expecting significant gains from bolts-ons is a bit unrealistic (regardless of what the manufacturuer says). Evens cams show little to no gains. Why? Because our car comes with lumpy high end cams from the outset, it's just that with VTEC they don't kick in till the high end anyway, so you don't sacrifice low end driveability.

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 09:50 PM

View PostAusS2000, on 04 December 2011 - 06:06 PM, said:

Disconnect a couple of coil leads and you'll make 30hp.


Shall we add this to a DIY Aus? hehehhe :D

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 09:55 PM

View PostAusS2000, on 04 December 2011 - 06:06 PM, said:

Disconnect a couple of coil leads and you'll make 30hp.

lol.
I was waiting for this!

30hp! wtf, buy a pushbike ;)

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 01:43 AM

Js 70mm duel exhaust sounds good to me, been reading the USA forum and thats about right for gains.
does anyone know where i can get j's exhaust? and hondata from in sydney

I have orderd the Brian Crower cam stage2 and want to get my car ready before the new year.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 04:14 AM

rus21s, getting your car ready - even with just the BC cams and Hondata ECU delivered and tuned - will be a tough ask before month's end. Dare I say, optimistic, but good luck nonetheless. If you're really after performance, go for the single exhaust.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 05:19 AM

Rus21s,

Check out JDMConcept for the J's exhaust. From memory its roughly $1400. They're based here in Sydney. I got a J's intake scoop from them.
Send Leonardy an email, he'll help you out. Great guy too.

Personally I'd go with the 4.56 final drive regarding upgrades. A Kia Sportage diff also fits. I think it's 4.56 or 4.77. Otherwise have a look at GTMotoring.com

Good luck Buddy

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