[veehexx]

the last few months the S has been very damp inside - more condensation inside than out.
today i find out that the roof is leaking more than a sieve.

damn - i need to part with some cash.

question is, mohair or twilweave - whats the pro's and cons for each?

i know alot of people here went for mohair, but does it require more/different maintenance than the OE twilweave material?

[Spies]

Thatched, just to be different

I'd go for mohair, looks nicer and there's no more upkeep than the OEM.

[keith2.2]

Is it leaking from cracks, or does it just need a clean and some hood protectant / proofing?

[Croc]

my vote is for OEM kind of material (vinyl).
cloth top is anightmare to maintain clean.

[veehexx]

i gave monsoon a ring - the nice lady on the end of the line says to go for OE, rather than mohair!
i did ask her about the maintenance side of things, so i think she sugested the twilweave (OE) because of that.
sound slike the twilweave is alot more forgiving and robust when it comes to washing. the mohair has to be treated with a bit more care. it's not for me.

the roof has pretty much had it, and i intended to get one last summer out of it.
what could be worn out on it, has pretty much - cracks in the edge piping, temporary stone repair (oodles of silicon sealer) between the 2 layers at the side of the rear screen, and it's now gone porous.

i used some protectant/sealer 3 months ago, just for general maintenance to prolong the replacement (i knew it was getting past it then)

it's been very wet today in the midlands - ran my hand across the inside of the roof, and it's completely soaked through. not just in bits, but the entire thing.

i think i'm going to have to bring the replacement forward 6 months, as right now the car is very very wet and i just dont think it's doing any of the electronics any good - more condensation on the inside of the car than the outside when i jumped in it this morning. usually you get a fog on the glass. for me it's actual water droplets!

This post has been edited by veehexx: 03 January 2012 - 12:39 PM

[GiffS2K]

Why not try Jack Smiths in Swansea, £280 for an OEM spec mohair including fitting..

[simonprelude]

GiffS2K, on 03 January 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

Why not try Jack Smiths in Swansea, £280 for an OEM spec mohair including fitting..

More deatils / pics?

[yorkies2k]

GiffS2K, on 03 January 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

Why not try Jack Smiths in Swansea, £280 for an OEM spec mohair including fitting..

That seems cheap.

[veehexx]

...too cheap tbh. i've seen a few of the big names say £500 area for parts only.
i'm a skeptic for the long term reliability of the roof...
edit: looks like the MX5 community likes him - google "jack smith swansea"... interesting!

another question now though...
if i were to leave the roof over winter, and aside from the obvious condensation every morning, would this cause any longer-term issues with wiring connections etc?
to some level, a car is subjected to alot of weather conditions, so i cant see a big worry about leaving the car in this state for a few months.

This post has been edited by veehexx: 03 January 2012 - 03:33 PM

[GiffS2K]

Jack Smith certainly has a very good reputation, they operate out of the back streets of Swansea and its simply a case of dropping the car off and collecting it a few hours later. They will reuse the glass screen if equipped and fit it to the new hood. Do seem to last on the MX5 very well indeed.
I was planning a trip down there with my last car but ended up selling it instead..

[WinFreak]

Maybe you can buy a hardtop for the winter and sell it afterwards? To keep it all a bit dryer over winter

[veehexx]

WinFreak, on 04 January 2012 - 02:20 AM, said:

Maybe you can buy a hardtop for the winter and sell it afterwards? To keep it all a bit dryer over winter

already thought about it... but then theres the fitting kit issue - can pickup a HT for £300 from ebay, HT fitting kit would likely raise the the cost to £800 area

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Jack Smith certainly has a very good reputation, they operate out of the back streets of Swansea and its simply a case of dropping the car off and collecting it a few hours later. They will reuse the glass screen if equipped and fit it to the new hood. Do seem to last on the MX5 very well indeed.
I was planning a trip down there with my last car but ended up selling it instead..

so they definitely do S2000's then? i might give the guy a ring, see what he can do....

[jammer2209]

I'd be interested in what they say veehexx. Please can you keep us posted?!

[Ryan9]

I definatley would if that price is accurate, that seems to be the cost for the mx5 guys going of google.

[BledS2k]

Hi all,

Without trying to thread hijack - "Keith2.2" asked is the water leaking through the cracks? Its been a while since I've been on here & was just wondering if its due to these cracks along the piping that causes the water to fill up the seals (hence wet shoulders when pull off)???

Also like many others, I'd be very interested to hear more about the roof replacement in Swansea.

Cheers

This post has been edited by BledS2k: 04 January 2012 - 08:07 AM

[yorkies2k]

Ryan9, on 04 January 2012 - 08:00 AM, said:

I definatley would if that price is accurate, that seems to be the cost for the mx5 guys going of google.

Likewise. I was looking at getting a top from the states and fitting it but that still works out more expensive plus the hassell of doing it. The only thing looking at the mx5 posts seems to be they need your old glass screen, so for me with a plastic one at the moment id imagine Id have to stay plastic.

[jammer2209]

By the way, the standard price for an MX-5 hood to be fitted is around £300 (including the hood). It's hugely optimistic to believe an s2000 will be fitted for this price as:

a) The hoods themselves are about £450+
b) It's a much bigger job!

I'd love this to be the case, but imagine it's closer to £600 if he does them at all.

[veehexx]

well, it's booked in at Jack Smiths - £260.

he's done a few S2000's, so he does have some experience (can it really be that much different than mx5?) but this will be the first for one with a glass-rear screen hood. (my 00my has retrofitted glass screen), so he'll need it for a few days to pattern it up as the plastic and glass versions will be slightly different.
vinyl and mohair fabrics are both available, i think he said mohair for £260, although I'll be having a final discussion over the material when i drop it off to him.

if what i know is right, then the 02my models have a different hood again, so the first with a 02> model may need to leave it with him for a few days.

once it's fitted, then I'll naturally give some feedback for the job.

thanks for the heads up giffS2K

This post has been edited by veehexx: 04 January 2012 - 10:12 AM

[Croc]

jammer2209, on 04 January 2012 - 09:19 AM, said:

By the way, the standard price for an MX-5 hood to be fitted is around £300 (including the hood). It's hugely optimistic to believe an s2000 will be fitted for this price as:

a) The hoods themselves are about £450+
b) It's a much bigger job!

I'd love this to be the case, but imagine it's closer to £600 if he does them at all.

as strange as it is - S2K's hood is not more expensive than Miata's. at the dealer's OEM against OEM it's even cheaper.
Miata's installation is also a nightmare. 4 hours easily for expirienced guy.

[jammer2209]

Cool, when you booked in vee (roughly)? I was looking at getting a new one soonish but can wait if you're getting yours soonish.

[loftust]

Croc, on 04 January 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

Miata's installation is also a nightmare. 4 hours easily for expirienced guy.

:iadisagree:

It's child's play on an MX5.

£260 is an exceptionally good price. I'm surprised he's not charging that for labour alone.

[loftust]

Croc, on 04 January 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

Miata's installation is also a nightmare. 4 hours easily for expirienced guy.

It's child's play on an MX5.

£260 is an exceptionally good price. I'm surprised he's not charging that for labour alone...it's a 6-7 hour job on the S.

[yorkies2k]

Be interesting to see if the price is still £260 once he's done this one then. If it is I'll definatly be paying a trip there.

[GiffS2K]

Which colour are you going for? The red hoods work well on black and white cars.

[loftust]

GiffS2K, on 04 January 2012 - 02:08 PM, said:

The red hoods work well on black and white cars.

As long as your name is Dougal McNotaste