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Posted 30 January 2012 - 02:17 PM

I need new tired pretty soon for S. Which tires do you guys recommend? Just want to see what other people's opinion before I make my purchase. Thanks you

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 02:30 PM

As they say... Jack of All Trades, Master of None.

If you have a winter beater and/or separate winter tires for snow/cold, then buy summer tires and enjoy higher grip levels. Especially if you plan on autocrossing, etc.

If you can only afford one set of tires and don't have a second car, then it would probably be better to buy all seasons.

But really, this is a sports car. Buy summer tires for it. Tires are your #1 link to the road.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 03:28 PM

Summer

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 03:58 PM

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 04:11 PM

again it depends on use.

around here though, if you plan on driving in the say...april & october months theres chances that you will get caught in rain.

will the star specs do it? yah....will they be greasy at best? probably. if it were me and i DIDNT have a beater, id do the highest performance all seasons i could understanding the difference between all seasons and dedicated summer.
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 04:30 PM

View Post04SBs2k, on 30 January 2012 - 02:17 PM, said:

I need new tired pretty soon for S. Which tires do you guys recommend? ...


In what range of weather will you use these tires (Dry, Wet, Snow and Ice)? Are you generally a moderate or 'energetic' driver?

If you are nearly always a moderate driver, you can use all-weather tires all year. S2K.Danny mentions the dry/wet Continentals. I use the dry/wet/snow Continentals because I'm expected to go to work in snow unless the roads are closed:


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http://www.eurocarne...al-details.html

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If you are often (or more) energetic as moderate, and you live where it is dry most of the summer, you'll want to have 'summer' tires in good weather and either an alterative set of wheels/tires for 'winter' or an alternate vehilce for rain/snow/ice. If you live where summer weather includes rain almost anytime, you'll want good dry/wet tires, then change wheels/tires or vehicle if you have snow/ice.


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Posted 30 January 2012 - 07:29 PM

Which tire will last longer? Summer or all season?

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 07:29 PM

The DWS are great tires if you plan on driving in snow/ice with the S2K as your DD.
They sacrifice some cornering abilities compared to the DW on dry/warm pavement.
But the DWS would be my choice if you're worried about snow/ice.



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Which tire will last longer? Summer or all season?


The DWS comes with a 50k mile warranty from Continental against defects. IF you get them installed at a big box place like Sears or Discount Tire, AND purchase their road hazard for the tires, you'll get free flat repairs, and they'll typically warranty your tires for treadwear for that full 50k mile warranty.
The DW do not come with a warranty, but I have about 10k on both front&rear DW on my S, and they look like they'll last at least 25k on the rear (with -3.0 camber), and somewhere around 40k on the front.
But for peace of mind, the DWS *should* last longer.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 07:42 PM

Typically all seasons will last longer than summer tires. Summer tires grip by being "sticky", and this is going to wear them down faster.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 08:47 PM

I barely drive my S probably once a week when summer comes around and I lived 4 miles total driving back & forth from home.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 09:16 PM

View Postspets, on 30 January 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

As they say... Jack of All Trades, Master of None.


This. All seasons mean they suck in all seasons.

I would just get some summer tires - what Tire Rack calls 'Ultra High Performance'. The Star Specs do just fine in the rain if you aren't a jackass. I'm on Hankook R-S3's right now and they get a little sketchy under 50F, but they're still manageable as well. Other than our yearly Snowmageddon, I'm of the opinion that you'll be just fine with a high performance summer tire as long as you aren't being stupid with the car.
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 03:21 PM

I agree. I go with the thought that ult dry/summer/track grip is what I want and will live with the compromises in the wet or cold months. Getting a tire that’s decent in all conditions, means it’s not great in any one of them, and I didn’t mod or run the s2000 with that in mind.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 08:51 PM

I do have an DD. Ultra high performance is the way to for s2k. Thanks for the input

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 09:52 PM

View Post04SBs2k, on 31 January 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

I do have an DD. Ultra high performance is the way to for s2k. Thanks for the input


Perfect then. Ultra high performance tires for an ultra high performance car :thumbup:

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 12:58 PM

Star Specs is my put. About to get my 2nd set soon. Great in the dry, decent in the rain as alfonso said.
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Posted 01 February 2012 - 05:38 PM

complete derail of the thread....

do you have a stock lip with the downforce secondary lip/splitter?

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:17 AM

www.discounttires.com this place is cheaper than the other Discount Tire. this one is called discount tires notice the S lol.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 06:41 PM

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www.discounttires.com this place is cheaper than the other Discount Tire. this one is called discount tires notice the S lol.


Damn...seems kinda fishy with just the addition of the "s". Have you ordered from them before?

BTW, agree that summer tires is the way to go. Good for 3 seasons (not good for winter) including rain for most of them. Check out this comparo that Car and Driver did...very telling of the capabilities of summer tires. http://www.caranddri...omparison-tests

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:25 PM

yes i have ordered from them before, picked up some tires for my 18s for 100$ a piece. shipping was quick too

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 01:37 AM

View PostRdizzle, on 02 February 2012 - 06:41 PM, said:

View Postntezzzle, on 02 February 2012 - 01:17 AM, said:

www.discounttires.com this place is cheaper than the other Discount Tire. this one is called discount tires notice the S lol.


Damn...seems kinda fishy with just the addition of the "s". Have you ordered from them before?

BTW, agree that summer tires is the way to go. Good for 3 seasons (not good for winter) including rain for most of them. Check out this comparo that Car and Driver did...very telling of the capabilities of summer tires. http://www.caranddri...omparison-tests

*Edit: updating with correct link.


Man you get 3 seasons out of your tires? I just replaced my rears today and plan on them getting me to Fall. :eek1: I get two seasons out of the fronts.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 05:01 PM

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Man you get 3 seasons out of your tires? I just replaced my rears today and plan on them getting me to Fall. :eek1: I get two seasons out of the fronts.


Either I'm driving like grandma or you're driving like the tasmanian devil!

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 05:10 PM

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View Posts2000Junky, on 03 February 2012 - 01:37 AM, said:


Man you get 3 seasons out of your tires? I just replaced my rears today and plan on them getting me to Fall. :eek1: I get two seasons out of the fronts.


Either I'm driving like grandma or you're driving like the tasmanian devil!


Well... I don’t think you drive like a grandma dude :LOL:

You probably just got some defective Monday tires haha

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:50 PM

What tires did you go with junky? I'm gonna see how long my uhp summer tires last too. I'm aiming for three seasons with my VSA assisted touge style driving.
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Posted 04 February 2012 - 02:44 AM

View Postnismo270, on 03 February 2012 - 08:50 PM, said:

What tires did you go with junky? I'm gonna see how long my uhp summer tires last too. I'm aiming for three seasons with my VSA assisted touge style driving.


Ahh that's the secret squirrel tire saver mode you guys have (VSA) :D

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 01:01 PM

View PostALFYonso, on 30 January 2012 - 09:16 PM, said:

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View Postspets, on 30 January 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

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As they say... Jack of All Trades, Master of None.
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This. All seasons mean they suck in all seasons.<br />
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I would just get some summer tires - what Tire Rack calls 'Ultra High Performance'. The Star Specs do just fine in the rain if you aren't a jackass. I'm on Hankook R-S3's right now and they get a little sketchy under 50F, but they're still manageable as well. Other than our yearly Snowmageddon, I'm of the opinion that you'll be just fine with a high performance summer tire as long as you aren't being stupid with the car.<br />
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Love my StarSpecs! I don't drive in the snow either but they handle the Seattle rain quite well IMO :-)
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