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Noise when accelerating Clicking noise coming from rear

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 12:19 PM

MY01 is making a clicking noise from the rear. It makes this noise when I accelerate slow and fast, same sound like a torn or bad cv boot. However, it doesn't make this noise when I'm traveling at higher speeds and turning.

At first, it started with a single click about 2 weeks ago and now it has progress to multiple clicks from 4-10 and then its done.. no more sound. This also only occures when it's in gear and from stop to start. Some times I can hear it at higher speeds of 35+ mph. I have tighten up the axle nut thinking it was that but no luck.

The car also vibrates only in 1 and 2 gear when I accelerate from 2k to 3k rpm and if pass the 3k it stops vibrating. Weird!?!!?

Has someone ever had this problem or know the cause?
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 01:46 PM

Same problem, no answer. Mine almost seems to come from weight transfer. Deffinetly coming from the rear. Just replaced transmission fluid and differential gear oil and still have same click noise. Hard to pin down..................

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:41 PM

Someone has to have diagnosed this issue.. older AP1's should most likely encounter the most of the same problems as the cars get older... One day just CLICK and it's been current. I did however have the car parked for a little over a week about a month ago and when I went to drive it I heard a loud bang from the rear, out and checked and nothing seemed wrong. I figured it was the brake pads stuck to the disc from it sitting there. I'm going to jack the car up this weekend and let it spin to see if I can find the where the sounnd is coming from. If anyone know before the weekend please input, lol sounds desperate but I am because my car is my DD!

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 12:39 PM

*Update* I raised the car up and had a buddy accelerate.... There was so much noise I could barely hear the clicking! I didn't see anything stuck underneath nothin seemed loose. I am in total confusion on what this could be. I was assuming the drvie shaft or boots?

I also get this scrathing noise when I'm like at 55+ mph maintaining speed.. weird. Anyone??

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Posted 13 February 2012 - 02:22 PM

I have the transmission backlash noise like a lot of the early S2000's, but this click noise, and it is just a single click, comes when in low gear and coming after a shift. Clutch can be depressed or not and still get the click. Don't think it is the clutch. Again it seems to be a weight transfer issue but is deffinetly coming from the rear end somewhere. Checked the spare tire bolt that I have heard people talk about being loose but that was not it. Still searching, scratching head, and listening intently.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 12:57 PM

I'm as lost as you are about this mystery noise?? I hope someone can help us out.

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 10:13 PM

Do you hear the clicks from a certain side? Driver? Passenger?

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 10:31 PM

You had your axle nut tsb done already?

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 10:29 AM

I am not aware of any axle nut tsb. Whats up with the axle nut?
If I had to guess, I would say the nosie was coming from passenger side rear.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 12:56 PM

I greased and 2 o'clocked the nut, but the sound is still persisting. I also found this upon researching.. Honda-tech.com

Might be related to this TSB:

Suspension - Creak/Grunt From Rear At Low Speeds
SOURCE: Honda Service News
TITLE: Creak of Grunt From Rear of Vehicle at Low Speeds
APPLIES TO: 2000-2005 S2000
SERVICE TIP:
Getting complaints from owners of '00-05 S2000s of a creak or grunt from the rear of the vehicle when cornering or driving at low speeds? The problem could be there's movement between the outboard joint and the wheel hub. To get rid of this noise, you need to clean and lube the mating surfaces of the outboard joint and the wheel hub.
Here's how:

Notes
1. Remove the wheel nuts and the rear wheel.
2. Lift up the stake on the spindle nut, and remove the nut.
3. Remove the cotter pin from the lower arm ball joint castle nut, and remove the nut
4. Separate the ball joint from the lower arm.
5. Pull the knuckle outward, and use a plastic hammer to remove the outboard joint from the wheel hub.
6. Clean the mating surfaces of the outboard joint and the wheel hub.
7. Apply a thin layer of DC111 silicone compound to the face of the outboard joint. This compound reduces the friction between the joint and the wheel hub so the noise won't happen again.
8. Pull the knuckle outward, and install the outboard joint to the wheel hub.
9. Reconnect the ball joint to the lower arm. Torque the castle nut to 69 N-m (51 lb-ft) , then tighten it only far enough to align the slot with the ball joint pin hole. Install a new cotter pin.
10. Clean the wheel hub and the spindle threads.
11. Lubricate the seating surface of a new spindle nut with engine oil, then install the nut. Torque the nut to 245 N-m (181 lb-ft) . Use a drift to stake the spindle nut shoulder against the driveshaft.
12. Reinstall the rear wheel. Torque the wheel nuts to 108 N-m (80 lb-ft) .
13. Repeat steps 1 thru 12 for the other outboard joint.


Would this sovle the symptoms? This is a lot of work, but I think I'll give it a go when the weather clears up.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 05:03 PM

Dont bother with that procedure, it wont work. Especially 180 ft-lbs you might as well not even use a nut :D

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http://www.s2ki.com/...le-nut-tsb-diy/
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:50 PM

Good information on the Outboard Joint and the Wheel Hub as well as the Wheel Nut TSB. I will give the wheel nut a try but the outboard joint may be more than I am prepared to do. Don't want to make things worse..............

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 12:14 AM

View PostBillman250, on 16 February 2012 - 05:03 PM, said:

Dont bother with that procedure, it wont work. Especially 180 ft-lbs you might as well not even use a nut :D

Go here man:

http://www.s2ki.com/...le-nut-tsb-diy/


So whats the correct torque. My big torque wrench only goes up to 180 I believe. Lemme know I am going to do this asap!
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 08:08 AM

Thanks for the link Billman! I give this nut thing another round of go and report back to see if the noise is still present. Maybe I just didn't move the nut far enough?

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 11:28 AM

AXLE NUT! clicks, possibly shaking at high speed and strange revolving noise = axle nut!
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 02:41 PM

View PostTougeS2k, on 17 February 2012 - 11:28 AM, said:

AXLE NUT! clicks, possibly shaking at high speed and strange revolving noise = axle nut!


Would it cause shaking at lower speeds too? I am having vibrations in 1 and 2 gears from 2 to 3k rpm only.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 05:00 PM

*Update* I tighten the nuts pass the 2 o'clock position and it's still clicking. A friend it sounds like it's coming from the middle of the car, porpeller shaft?

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 10:24 PM

Are the clicks increasing with speed?

Mine is having a similar issue. I replaced one of my axles tonight (found out they had reman axles in there).

The noise and vibrations have cut in half. Im gonna get another axle in the otherside and ill post results.

Btw im MY00 with axle spacers.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 11:08 PM

The bearings may already be shot. Do more research on Axle Nut here. Tightening only works if you catch it early or before symptoms. All the signs of a worn bearing.....

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 11:08 PM

The bearings may already be shot. Do more research on Axle Nut here. Tightening only works if you catch it early or before symptoms. All the signs of a worn bearing.....

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 11:08 PM

The bearings may already be shot. Do more research on Axle Nut here. Tightening only works if you catch it early or before symptoms. All the signs of a worn bearing.....

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 01:57 AM

When you do the axle nut make sure you lube up the face of the nut, NOT the threads! Me and my buddy did both our cars, his was having noises from the rear and it fixed his right up! :)
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 08:03 AM

View Posts2k-tilldeath, on 22 February 2012 - 01:57 AM, said:

When you do the axle nut make sure you lube up the face of the nut, NOT the threads! Me and my buddy did both our cars, his was having noises from the rear and it fixed his right up! :)


Wish I could say the same for me too! But in this case it's not and to answer your question Sceanzo, Yes it does increase. I've also just noticed that its starting to get more frequent as before it was just from a dead stop through 2 gear, now I can hear it in 1-4, 5 and 6 sometimes right after I shift I give it a little gas and you can hear rapid clicking due to power transfer.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 08:10 AM

Rapid clicking during power transfer may be a bad driveshaft (the one that runs from the trans to the dif) I have seen and heard it first hand with the s2k, so this is not a guess :)

Do this:

put the car in the air SAFELY and check the shaft. Front to back movement of the shaft is normal. It will float front to back.

However, if you can feel ANY up and down play at all, or are able to make the shaft make any type of noise while wiggling up and down, the CV cage is split inside one of the ends.

This usually happens during a clutch install. if one end of the shaft is forced, it has major leverage on the cage and breaks it.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 08:16 AM

After reading your description again, it REALLY sounds like a split driveshaft cage.

I had a car here two weeks ago with a bad shaft and his symptoms were 100% identical to the the ones in your description.

AXLE nut noise is usually always limited to single clicks, and low speed rotation multiple clicking noise even when coasting. Usually no symptoms can beo found over 8 mph or so.

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