[ipopvtec]

Hi Guys,

I have been debating getting this Drexler LSD with my tax return money for a while now. From what I read it is very quiet while loading and unloading and runs flawlessly even in the rain. (Please don't explain to me why OSG is better and cheaper, I am set on the Drexler.) ASM/GoTuning sells this LSD for $6300, but I found that if I get the same specs as ASM from Drexler direct I can get the unit for a little less than $2500. I am probably going to get a ramp angle combo of 45/45.

I have searched the fourm and I havent came across anyone actually running this LSD. I wonder why? I also wanna make sure I know why the ASM one is $6300, and from Drexler direct its half that. (I know ASM RAPES people on prices so I believe it.. but just want to make sure.)

Also, do any of you guys run a 2way diff on the street? Is it safe as long as your not a noob (i.e. lifting throttle mid turn)? Also wondering why NO car comes stock with one?

Please let me know.

http://www.gotuning....products_id=945

[iLuveketchup]

What are you trying to fix or accomplish with a 2-way LSD?

[ipopvtec]

 iLuveketchup, on 11 February 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

What are you trying to fix or accomplish with a 2-way LSD?

Not a big fan of the stock torsen. I would like to have more stable turn in, and mainly better control of my tail end.

I also want it because I like to have a little fun with the rear end on the street, but want something serious at the same time for the track/autocross. This is my weekend car, not my DD, but I still drive about 2-5,000 miles a year on the street.

[wrecked]

ive noticed sometimes when i want to slide the rear out a little, when im making a 90 degree turn at low speeds and hit the gas, the inside wheel spins a little and then it grabs finally. I think something might be wrong with the diff.. I believe I'm running the recommended fluid made by redline. is this normal?

[ipopvtec]

 wrecked, on 14 February 2012 - 04:39 AM, said:

ive noticed sometimes when i want to slide the rear out a little, when im making a 90 degree turn at low speeds and hit the gas, the inside wheel spins a little and then it grabs finally. I think something might be wrong with the diff.. I believe I'm running the recommended fluid made by redline. is this normal?

What kinda diff do you have?

[wrecked]

OEM as far as I know. lol

[ipopvtec]

 wrecked, on 14 February 2012 - 03:19 PM, said:

OEM as far as I know. lol

Shouldnt be spinning under accelleration. Ask billman, he is s2k god

[bbp]

 wrecked, on 14 February 2012 - 04:39 AM, said:

ive noticed sometimes when i want to slide the rear out a little, when im making a 90 degree turn at low speeds and hit the gas, the inside wheel spins a little and then it grabs finally. I think something might be wrong with the diff.. I believe I'm running the recommended fluid made by redline. is this normal?

it is limited slip and this is how it works

[bbp]

 ipopvtec, on 11 February 2012 - 05:04 PM, said:

 iLuveketchup, on 11 February 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

What are you trying to fix or accomplish with a

Not a big fan of the stock torsen. I would like to have more stable turn in, and mainly better control of my tail end.

I also want it because I like to have a little fun with the rear end on the street, but want something serious at the same time for the track/autocross. This is my weekend car, not my DD, but I still drive about 2-5,000 miles a year on the street.

2-way LSD???
it will make you slide all over when you are turning fast (on and off throttle) and when you will be making U-turns your car will be hopping like a bunny.
If you really want a 2-way LSD I suggest welding the stock diff. 2-way or welded diffs are used for drifting or drag and most likely will make you slower on a road course.

[ipopvtec]

 bbp, on 14 February 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

 ipopvtec, on 11 February 2012 - 05:04 PM, said:

 iLuveketchup, on 11 February 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

What are you trying to fix or accomplish with a

Not a big fan of the stock torsen. I would like to have more stable turn in, and mainly better control of my tail end.

I also want it because I like to have a little fun with the rear end on the street, but want something serious at the same time for the track/autocross. This is my weekend car, not my DD, but I still drive about 2-5,000 miles a year on the street.

2-way LSD???
it will make you slide all over when you are turning fast (on and off throttle) and when you will be making U-turns your car will be hopping like a bunny.
If you really want a 2-way LSD I suggest welding the stock diff. 2-way or welded diffs are used for drifting or drag and most likely will make you slower on a road course.

Thanks for the info. Just curious.. how come the ASM s2000 laps tskuba in under a minute with a 2 way LSD? I understand an agressive ramp angle combo will make you spin intensively.. but even 45/45 or say 50on/40off setup?

Essentially does it not just limit the slip rather than cut out slip completely?

[bbp]

 ipopvtec, on 15 February 2012 - 12:48 AM, said:

 bbp, on 14 February 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

 ipopvtec, on 11 February 2012 - 05:04 PM, said:

 iLuveketchup, on 11 February 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

What are you trying to fix or accomplish with a

Not a big fan of the stock torsen. I would like to have more stable turn in, and mainly better control of my tail end.

I also want it because I like to have a little fun with the rear end on the street, but want something serious at the same time for the track/autocross. This is my weekend car, not my DD, but I still drive about 2-5,000 miles a year on the street.

2-way LSD???
it will make you slide all over when you are turning fast (on and off throttle) and when you will be making U-turns your car will be hopping like a bunny.
If you really want a 2-way LSD I suggest welding the stock diff. 2-way or welded diffs are used for drifting or drag and most likely will make you slower on a road course.

Thanks for the info. Just curious.. how come the ASM s2000 laps tskuba in under a minute with a 2 way LSD? I understand an agressive ramp angle combo will make you spin intensively.. but even 45/45 or say 50on/40off setup?

Essentially does it not just limit the slip rather than cut out slip completely?

stay away from 2 way diffs until you do more research and drive a car with one equipped.

[ipopvtec]

 bbp, on 20 February 2012 - 11:45 AM, said:

 ipopvtec, on 15 February 2012 - 12:48 AM, said:

 bbp, on 14 February 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

 ipopvtec, on 11 February 2012 - 05:04 PM, said:

 iLuveketchup, on 11 February 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

What are you trying to fix or accomplish with a

Not a big fan of the stock torsen. I would like to have more stable turn in, and mainly better control of my tail end.

I also want it because I like to have a little fun with the rear end on the street, but want something serious at the same time for the track/autocross. This is my weekend car, not my DD, but I still drive about 2-5,000 miles a year on the street.

2-way LSD???
it will make you slide all over when you are turning fast (on and off throttle) and when you will be making U-turns your car will be hopping like a bunny.
If you really want a 2-way LSD I suggest welding the stock diff. 2-way or welded diffs are used for drifting or drag and most likely will make you slower on a road course.

Thanks for the info. Just curious.. how come the ASM s2000 laps tskuba in under a minute with a 2 way LSD? I understand an agressive ramp angle combo will make you spin intensively.. but even 45/45 or say 50on/40off setup?

Essentially does it not just limit the slip rather than cut out slip completely?

stay away from 2 way diffs until you do more research and drive a car with one equipped.

why do u say so?

[EVLS2K]

because the wheels will spin either you accelerate or decelerate

[DVSHyBRiD]

I used to drift/daily a 240 with a s14 SR and welded diff.... totally inconvenient but definitely fun... a bunch of my friends have 2 ways and welded differentials in their drift cars and drive them everyday. I think it comes down to your personal preference of dealing with the clunks/tires chirping around tight turns. Driving on wet/slippery roads makes for an interesting time with a locked/semi locked differential.

BTW coming from drifting experience, edging then front end in is easier with a 2 way diff than a welded because its not 100% spool locked (depending on how you adjust the differential).

[ipopvtec]

I know exactly how they work and why they are better than 1-way. I do lack experience because I havent driven a s2k with a 2 way first hand. Thats why I was looking for advice.

I wanted to make sure the car will still be fun to drive on the street without killing myself..

Is is easier to spin the car with a 2way diff or with a 1way torsen?

[bbp]

 ipopvtec, on 21 February 2012 - 04:38 PM, said:

I know exactly how they work and why they are better than 1-way. I do lack experience because I havent driven a s2k with a 2 way first hand. Thats why I was looking for advice.

I wanted to make sure the car will still be fun to drive on the street without killing myself..

Is is easier to spin the car with a 2way diff or with a 1way torsen?

easier to spin the car with a 2way diff!

This post has been edited by bbp: 23 February 2012 - 11:50 PM

[ipopvtec]

 bbp, on 23 February 2012 - 11:50 PM, said:

 ipopvtec, on 21 February 2012 - 04:38 PM, said:

I know exactly how they work and why they are better than 1-way. I do lack experience because I havent driven a s2k with a 2 way first hand. Thats why I was looking for advice.

I wanted to make sure the car will still be fun to drive on the street without killing myself..

Is is easier to spin the car with a 2way diff or with a 1way torsen?

easier to spin the car with a 2way diff!

Why is this so? I thought it would add stability. Theres nothing stopping a torsen from coming around. With a 2 way the 2 rear wheels have to stay within a ratio of each other?

[bbp]

There was a nice video on YouTube on how diffs work, find it.
I suggest you drive a car with one.

[S2KNJ]

[/quote]

Why is this so? I thought it would add stability. Theres nothing stopping a torsen from coming around. With a 2 way the 2 rear wheels have to stay within a ratio of each other?
[/quote]


That's a ton of money for a part that you "think" provides stability with tons of drawbacks. See what else $6300 buys you for your car, put it towards retirement or buy a house... it's your monry dude it's not like the goverment gave you a gift.

[DVSHyBRiD]

 ipopvtec, on 24 February 2012 - 10:28 AM, said:

 bbp, on 23 February 2012 - 11:50 PM, said:

 ipopvtec, on 21 February 2012 - 04:38 PM, said:

I know exactly how they work and why they are better than 1-way. I do lack experience because I havent driven a s2k with a 2 way first hand. Thats why I was looking for advice.

I wanted to make sure the car will still be fun to drive on the street without killing myself..

Is is easier to spin the car with a 2way diff or with a 1way torsen?

easier to spin the car with a 2way diff!

Why is this so? I thought it would add stability. Theres nothing stopping a torsen from coming around. With a 2 way the 2 rear wheels have to stay within a ratio of each other?

and when the two wheels stay within the same ratio "rotational speed" and you take a tight turn the inside wheel travels less distance.


You should be able to put the rest of the puzzle together without my explanation.

This post has been edited by DVSHyBRiD: 24 February 2012 - 05:53 PM

[iLuveketchup]

To the OP, do you want a 2-way LSD because the ASM car has it? I'm still a bit confused on what your are trying to accomplish with the 2-way.

[SeanSerino]

I really don't know much about differentials, but this all seems like a terrible waste of money, and sounds pretty impractical for a street car.

[ipopvtec]

That's a ton of money for a part that you "think" provides stability with tons of drawbacks. See what else $6300 buys you for your car, put it towards retirement or buy a house... it's your monry dude it's not like the goverment gave you a gift.
[/quote]

 iLuveketchup, on 24 February 2012 - 06:02 PM, said:

To the OP, do you want a 2-way LSD because the ASM car has it? I'm still a bit confused on what your are trying to accomplish with the 2-way.

 SeanSerino, on 25 February 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:

I really don't know much about differentials, but this all seems like a terrible waste of money, and sounds pretty impractical for a street car.

Looks like I wont be getting it after all. I think im gonna ride my torsen to the ground before I get this.

But when I am ready I will be getting the drexler. Some things are worth the price.

[petawabit]

what else have you done to your car, mod-wise? I'm curious as this isn't a very entry, or even mid-level upgrade and want to see if you're just bench racing or you have a car that is extensively modded.