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DMS 450BHP Supercharge built for Greg

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 01:20 PM

So how many active boosted S,s will this make ? .Think were going to need our own place to lurk on the uk side.
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 02:32 PM

Not sure, if it just the one we have built or involve working with it then is around 12-13 of them so far.
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 02:42 PM

Where about in West Wales are you mate?

I'm based in Bangor but frequent the West quite often, family in Pennal, Aber and then as far as Builth.

Also considering moving from working in Manchester to the West, should be a fairly quite like as a Paramedic in most parts :D

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 02:42 PM

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 03:10 PM

hi all, i m from place Cardigan on the coast west wales , talking to Dixon he reckons mid next week and i can t wait to get it back and on a track ,loving the pictures and thinking what i can do to the car next :D

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 03:14 PM

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hi all, i m from place Cardigan on the coast west wales , talking to Dixon he reckons mid next week and i can t wait to get it back and on a track ,loving the pictures and thinking what i can do to the car next :D



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Posted 21 February 2012 - 03:28 PM

Yeah ,no problem pop in any time , bought the car September and haven t stop modding it since then

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 07:44 AM

View Postbow1build, on 21 February 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

i can t wait to get it back and on a track , thinking what i can do to the car next :D


Oil cooler and temp gauge would be very useful if you intend to track at 450bhp. Maybe a bigger radiator as well.

Does this supercharger use engine oil for its lubrication or does it have its own oil system like a rotrex setup?
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 08:02 AM

Yes oil cooler is going in as well. This kit use engine oil for lubrication.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 03:53 PM

What clutch are you going to fit Dixon?

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 04:13 PM

ACT one, good enough for 550bhp

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 04:20 PM

Is that the clutch you would recommend for this type of application or are there better options?

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 04:57 PM

View PostDixon Motorsports, on 22 February 2012 - 04:13 PM, said:

ACT one, good enough for 550bhp



Snap love my ACT 20% heavier then stock :thumbup:

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 05:33 PM

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Is that the clutch you would recommend for this type of application or are there better options?

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Yes this is enough for around 550bhp and you don't have to change the flywheel. For road and track day use is a budget solution, for racing use we would have use the carbonetic clutch kit with flywheel and carbon clutch plate. That would be the ultimate setup.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 05:56 PM

What advantage does the carbon clutch give? What does it feel like--is it like a typical heavy on/off paddle clutch?

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 06:09 PM

Not at all, carbon clutch feel like oem and have oem like biting point. Even on twin plate you can still use it everyday in/out traffic without having your left foot in pain.

Carbon clutch last so much longer even with constant abuse and it only get more aggressive when it's hot. So you get a proper racing clutch when you go track, it also allow small amount of slip so it doesn't cause wheel spin at launch.

My race car used to have twin carbon plate clutch and after whole year of abused, it was like new when we took it out with almost no wear and that was with me launching at 2nd gear with 7000rpm.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 06:08 AM

We got something to play around with the cams today -

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 06:16 AM

Haha good old woodruff keys :D :thumbup:

What you going for? -1 on the intake and +2 on the exhaust? or you putting your highly flowing exhaust system on this car?

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 06:39 AM

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I wish i knew how that worked lol

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 06:57 AM

Raz,

All these keys do it line them up simply, the keys have a step in them so they offset the rotation of the cam to advance or retard hence the name 'woodruff offset keys'.

When you change cam timing, the intake valve opens sooner before TDC and the exhaust valve closes closer to BDC, its the position of the cams in relation to the cam gears. You can reduce overlap, just think of it helping the flow esp when boost is building you want to get let it flow through as quickly as possible without restrictions, altering the cam timing does this thus gains more power.

Depending on what setting you have you alter the overlap in the SC case decrease so your not wasting boost and allowing to flow out quicker.

N/A is different you want to get the most power by scanvenging - sucking into the cylinders from exhaust gas velocity. With this said stock cam timing setup is never beneficial for boost, however depending on setup you 'could' see benefits on N/A wise too.

The more the boost the bigger gain and the more important cam timing is, even low boost will benefit. With this said its about a 2 hour job and £70-80 odd worth of parts, or your setup and boost you'd probably see 20-30WHP easily. Just make sure bits are correctly torqued up and lined up. The only negative i can think of is increased EGT's slightly and slight increase of heat on the exhaust valves, but just run the car richer :thumbup: - but probably not needed though.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 07:09 AM

We will be running +1 on exhaust and -2 on intake as we are using the Pro76R manifold on this so will have more than enough to clear the back pressure.

Will be fitting this before the dyno, we have the 3.2inch 15psi pulley so we already know it will run 450bhp with stock timing. Let see what we gonna get from this, we should be have this all ready to map by the end of next week.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 07:15 AM

Good stuff Dixon, if i was sure what i was going to do with the car I'd take the car to you to do it, but also your just too far away from me :(

There's not really anyone up north to trust lol, other than myself and my mate LOL

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 07:32 AM

Thanks for the theory lesson AJ what i was really wondering was how they mechanically work. Are they just blended up and added to the oil, or do you jam in the piston rings :suspect:

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 08:40 AM

I thought i said a little bit about mechanically how they work above :), you remove the cams and add the keys in the end next to the lobe making sure before and after they are lined up.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 11:42 AM

^^^^ Yes Razz what AJ said its easy to understand NOT :roflmao: .

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