[BBV S2K]

My 02 AP1 recently started to act kinda weird.. a little tickle noise on the head... took out coils, Spark plugs and valve cover... adjusted the valves and the tickle went away.. so everything good... few weeks maybe 1 month I was driving to my girl job the car just shut down.. started it back up and it sounds like a STi.. I know the misfire issue that makes the car sound like a STi.. too out spark plugs and when im by cyl #4 the coil didn't wanted to pop out.. when I managed to take it out it was melted half of it still in the spark plug.. there's no way i can take out the spark plug...

Got it to a shop and they dont wanna touch the car.. they dont know how to work in my car...

last hope is getting it to the dealer for them to fix it... even tho they gonna rape me with the bill..

im mechanic but I dont have the tools to fix the screw if it damages...

with that said...

what could possible cause that?

[slalom44]

My head hurts trying to read you post..... What's a girl job?

Anyway, your problem was caused by your spark plug backing out. You probably didn't have it torqued down adequately. There are several threads on the subject.

[darcyw]

slalom44, on 21 February 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

My head hurts trying to read you post..... What's a girl job?

+1

[Carbon Blue]

you didnt torque your plugs down which caused the spark to ark and melt your coilpacks.

[s2k-tilldeath]

darcyw, on 21 February 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

slalom44, on 21 February 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

My head hurts trying to read you post..... What's a girl job?

+1

+2

I wish I could help you out but I can't understand what you said. I really want to know what a girl job is though... fill us in please.

[Duyx817]

to his girlfriends job. duuuh

if you read the post fast enough you wont catch the grammar errors

This post has been edited by Duyx817: 22 February 2012 - 02:27 AM

[OneSilverS2k]

Agreed, that really would be your only issue.

[Billman250]

Carbon Blue, on 21 February 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:

you didnt torque your plugs down which caused the spark to ark and melt your coilpacks.

This what happened, 100% guaranteed. A PROPERLY tighten plug will NOT back out.

So...get another coil pack, and you will need to use a pick and dig out the old coil pack enough so you can get a spark plug socket on the plug and get it out.

Sad to say, this usually causes major engine damage as the cylinder draws air past the threads and runs super-lean. Small chance u may get lucky.

[Speakeasy2009]

On average, how long does it take a plug to back out? Does it happen soon after the plug is installed or can happen a year later?? Just wondering since my S has been running funny. But i bought a tourque wrench and im pretty sure i did my plugs right about 4 months ago..still i get paranoid about it..

[BBV S2K]

Thanks guys... I was thinking the same thing... Cylinder #4 have the screw all chewed.. don't know how that happened... and I don't have the tool to fix it myself... another head? or there's a way to fix it?.. if i re-make the screw it gonna be bigger.. and of course spark plug wont fit

for the grammar nazzies.. IDGAF about my grammar im not a writer..

[BBV S2K]

Bump.. around how much a used/new F20C head will cost? Car has the warranty but it only covers the first $1,500.. a nice used or new head wont cost more than $1,500 right?

[dwight]

A new head with shipping is about $1500.

[BBV S2K]

dwight, on 23 February 2012 - 10:18 PM, said:

A new head with shipping is about $1500.

^^ Thanks man.. and im 100% the dealer gonna get a new one... so im screwed.. but anyway... wish me good luck haha

thanks everyone

/close or delete

[BBV S2K]

UPDATES... got the car to a shop that accepted the guaranty.. they took the head out.. filled the spark plug hole with aluminum and made the tread again.. EVERYTHING worked OK and there was no damage to the engine other than secondary air injector code and some other stuff... car runs PERFECT.. thing is...

going trough all the receipts and stuff I saw that they used CRV spark plug coils on my S2K.. car runs ok BUT im a picky person... they claim they are the same but obviously they dont.. now they refuse to change them to S2K ones because they aren't needed.. I'm mechanic but I if the car had a guaranty why not take it there and let em work it out...

any help or recommendations?

[Billman250]

If they are not made for the S2000, then they should not be in the S2000. Regarless if they fit and plug right in.

There is a stern WARNING about swapping s2k dbw coil packs with non-dbw coil packs. So if there's a s2k coil pack thats bad for the s2k, think about it

[BBV S2K]

with that said.. Im going to fill a claim with my warranty about that issue... Do not want my S2K later on with problems about coils then get the warranty voided because they put another vehicle parts in mines

[nissanfanatic]

BBV S2K, on 22 February 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

Thanks guys... I was thinking the same thing... Cylinder #4 have the screw all chewed.. don't know how that happened... and I don't have the tool to fix it myself... another head? or there's a way to fix it?.. if i re-make the screw it gonna be bigger.. and of course spark plug wont fit

for the grammar nazzies.. IDGAF about my grammar im not a writer..

Nobody is being a grammar nazi. A couple people simply stated the obvious; it is difficult to read your original post due to the structure of your post as a whole.

This post is much more clear and easily understood.

...

(This coil is used on a lot of Honda [and Acura] vehicles.)

The CRV coils are the same. Honda stocks them under the same part number for the 2004-2005 S2000 and the 2005 CRV according to hondaautomotiveparts.com.

Part number- 30520-RRA-007.

The 04-05 coils are an update to the AP1 coils which are part number 30520-PCX-007. The updated coils are also much cheaper so that is another plus.

This post has been edited by nissanfanatic: 08 March 2012 - 04:16 PM

[BBV S2K]

nissanfanatic, on 08 March 2012 - 04:10 PM, said:

Nobody is being a grammar nazi. A couple people simply stated the obvious; it is difficult to read your original post due to the structure of your post as a whole.

This post is much more clear and easily understood.

...

Big hands + small phone = Original Post...

thank you but still.. I don't feel OK.. spoke with them today again and they told me to get the car there tomorrow at 9AM... they gonna change them for the S2K original ones... they told me that the CRV ones are cheaper and thats why they put those in my car... S2K in the Honda Dealer are $95 a piece...

[nissanfanatic]

Yea, that is because the AP1 coils are more expensive. AP2 coils are the same thing as CRV coils. The part numbers are identical.

If you call any Honda dealer and order one 2004-2005 S2000 coil, you get part number 30520-RRA-007. If you call any Honda dealer and order one CRV coil, you get part number 30520-RRA-007. You are getting an S2000 coil, it is simply an update that Honda made, probably because AP1 coils are known to fail while AP2 coils fail much less often (I've never heard of one failing). You aren't supposed to use 2006+ S2000 coils because Honda, again, updated the design for the drive-by-wire EFI system found on 2006+ cars. So, 2004-2005 S2000 ignition coils, part number 30520-RRA-007, are desirable for any non Drive-By-Wire S2000 from a performance, longevity, and cost perspective. There is no reason to run the older coil unless spending more money helps you sleep better at night. For that, I have a paypal address that will give ambien a run for its money.

There isn't a separate bin or stock for S2000 ignition coils. Items are stocked by part number. Honda didn't do a magical coil winding for the S2000 or add unobtainium to the plug connector. All you are doing is spending more money on an outdated part that will probably fail again in sometime in the distant future.

But, good luck. I hope the car is okay and that the whole thing is a relatively easy fix.

This post has been edited by nissanfanatic: 08 March 2012 - 06:43 PM

[Lateralusticus]

Wow, for that price I would just get the plugs and put them in myself... You don't need that many tools, and it is a pretty quick DIY.

[nissanfanatic]

^I agree, but I think part of his original coil is still lodged in the spark plug tube. I think that would probably require some pretty trained/experienced hands and a scribe/hook to remove.

240sx KA engines with shitty plug wires would frequently leave a rubber boot over the spark plug which is buried down in the head just like The F2x. I have spent a couple hours fishing those suckers out and it isn't fun.

This post has been edited by nissanfanatic: 08 March 2012 - 06:46 PM

[BBV S2K]

thing is Im not paying for anything

Warranty is paying all that..

so AP2 coils will fit without problems on my AP1? and AP2 coils are the same as CRV Coils? I still have time to keep the CRV ones.. and my coil didnt failed.. my spark plug tread did.. therefor everything in that hole got messed up

[nissanfanatic]

Yes, CRV coils are the exact same thing as 2004-2005 AP2 coils. 2006+ AP2 coils are different because of Drive-By-Wire. 2004-2005 AP2 coils fit on the AP1 exactly the same as stock AP1 coils. Same plug, same size coil, same bolt hole, etc. Externally, they are identical as far as I could tell. Personally, I would opt for the CRV coils because I had a stock coil fail on my AP1. Just because one coil failed doesn't mean they are all doomed, but all the searching I did indicated that the AP2 coils never fail. I replaced all the coils with the AP2 coils and I have my stock AP1 coils as backups.

I would make sure they are OEM Honda CRV coils and not some off brand.

The best way to find interchangeable parts is by comparing part numbers from the manufacturer.

This post has been edited by nissanfanatic: 08 March 2012 - 08:49 PM

[BBV S2K]

Interesting.. yes Coils are OEM from the Honda Dealer.. They gave me receipts for everything... I'll talk to them tomorrow..

thanks guys..

[s2klariat]

If I'm not mistaken I think I read somewhere that the coils in the 04 and 05 were also in the RSX... Not 100% on that though.