[Owen_1987]

s2konroids, on 23 February 2012 - 02:00 PM, said:

MB, on 23 February 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

Owen_1987, on 23 February 2012 - 07:54 AM, said:

I have changed from Motul 300v to Fuchs Pro race (both 5w 40) because the Motul seemed to dissapear very quickly and I was going through it like petrol. Since changing to Fuchs it doesn't drink anywhere near as much (had it in for at least 6 months now) and is a fair bit cheaper to buy. I will be sticking to Fuchs from now on

Is that a fair seasonal comparisson?

I've tried 5 brands of oil in my car,the oil it consumed the most was motul 300v and mobil1 both same viscosity.

People won't like this but I think motul is over rated, still its hard to gauge these things but it's based on consumption and noise.

I would like to say I'm non biased dispite not wanting anything do with with French products if I can help it, I don't particularly like french either prefer the Germans lol.

Oil is a much of a muchness, still reading these esters seem better despite people saying otherwise.

I would still try millers ester, if it's good for one knowledgeable member...

From memory the motul used around 100 - 150ml approx every 2 weeks all year round but so far the fuchs is using approx 50ml every 2 weeks. I've also used castrol slx and that also used less than motul. All of this is just my experience in my MY00 though, could be different per engine?

[Owen_1987]

MB, on 23 February 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

Its all interesting stuff but I've always said stick to a big brand, right viscosity and all will be well.

I've switched to castrol now and you can't go wrong!

Other than long term consumption, it's all just opinion other than what Si has to say. None of us have torn an engine down, nor would we notice the difference.

I deffinatly agree with what you've said there, what i've said is just my personal experience and i'm deffinatly no expert in oil. Although, i doubt i will go back to motul because of my experience and it's interesting that someone else has had the same experience.

[Nick Graves]

I've blown up some - does that count?

[s2k_Nut]

Ultra_Nexus, on 23 February 2012 - 01:35 PM, said:

s2k_Nut, on 23 February 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:

I have a shed full of Millers courtesy of Mikey K (good enough for his charger) as part of a job I did for him, I intend to begin using this soon might even oil change it this weekend ... weather permitting
My 02 drinks oil like there is no tomorrw, always has had in my time of ownership.

I thought it stopped during that time we changed for the Castrol?

Nah Ron it never did, I see it as a characteristic of the car and a not too expensive overall consumable!

[Si2k]

U_N. where have you been reading about shear resistance please?

Thanks

[Turtle]

MB, on 23 February 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

None of us have torn an engine down, nor would we notice the difference.

I beg to differ on both counts.

While there is often little in practical performance between any suitable oil in a lot of circumstances, the F20C has a rather wider performance envelope that most engines. That does place a rather higher demand on the oil. You may chose to look at the gear ratio used for the oil pump and it's flow behaviour. If you compare that even to the Honda K series engine you'll start to see some of the detail engineering changes Honda included in the design of the F20C. Then you can get a much better idea of what the oil has to go through at times.

If anyone wants to see how their chosen oil is actually performing, have the oil analysed when you change it. You can learn more about whether the chosen oil (and change interval) is working for you than any amount of speculation of a forum. There are some publicly posted analysis results for various oils on the forum - should turn up with a search. (Crosses fingers and prays given the search engine....).

-Brian.

[lovegroova]

Turtle, on 23 February 2012 - 04:54 PM, said:

MB, on 23 February 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

None of us have torn an engine down, nor would we notice the difference.

I beg to differ on both counts.

While there is often little in practical performance between any suitable oil in a lot of circumstances, the F20C has a rather wider performance envelope that most engines. That does place a rather higher demand on the oil. You may chose to look at the gear ratio used for the oil pump and it's flow behaviour. If you compare that even to the Honda K series engine you'll start to see some of the detail engineering changes Honda included in the design of the F20C. Then you can get a much better idea of what the oil has to go through at times.

If anyone wants to see how their chosen oil is actually performing, have the oil analysed when you change it. You can learn more about whether the chosen oil (and change interval) is working for you than any amount of speculation of a forum. There are some publicly posted analysis results for various oils on the forum - should turn up with a search. (Crosses fingers and prays given the search engine....).

-Brian.

Like this thread? http://www.s2ki.com/...10w30-for-s2000

The search actually works pretty well these days.

[MB]

I personally have never seen the need for lube analysis on a road car. And I work heavily in tribology... I'm duly aware of its advantages and disadvantages, I just think people get too hung up on oil. You could run the S on semi synthetic all it's life and have no issue (as per the Honda manual)

[BV2000]

Just to make sure....sounds like 5w40 is the way to go & fully synthetic?

Time for 1st Oil change!

[Ultra_Nexus]

Si2k, on 23 February 2012 - 04:12 PM, said:

U_N. where have you been reading about shear resistance please?

Thanks

It was on an oil forum.

They were seeming to get all excited because of the high shear resistance of the low viscosity Gulf stuff.

I'd love to be able to give you specifics and I know this sounds sh1t, but it was along the lines of 'oil forums.net/com' etc etc.

Sorry

[Nick Graves]

BV2000, on 23 February 2012 - 06:06 PM, said:

Just to make sure....sounds like 5w40 is the way to go & fully synthetic?

Time for 1st Oil change!

Yup.

I'd not get too hung up on it though.

Generally speaking, Honda engines do have a reasonably long life, given that the nuts are thrashed off them permanantly!

[Si2k]

That 10W-30 comparison is a bit pointless for European formulations.