Iggy_Type_R

What a rip off... here are pics and the brocuhre. Pay careful attention to the specs... it is a Type S people... a rebadged Type S!!!!!!!! Not just the engine... but the wheels... same as the ordinary Integra, no brembos, red line at 7900rpm, this is a load of shit!!! I am furious at Honda for doing this...

Ok fine, if it was badged as a Type S... I wouldn't be bitching... BUT... this is just plain and simple rip off.






A very pissed off Iggy

DavidM

How much does this new Aus Integra Type-R weight? I know it's more than the outgoing model From the look/sound of it, it seems that you (Iggy) have the superior Integra Type-R .... in particular if your focus is on handling/perfromance.

ps. Though, the new new Type-R has a 6 speed transmittion ... anyone knows what the ratios are? Though, I doubt that the 1st three gears will be any closer than the current one as the 3rd gear maxes out at somewhere over 120kph.

Iggy_Type_R

Here is a detailed list: Weight up by 90kgs

Engine
Inline 4 Cylinder DOHC i-VTEC with VTC

Capacity
2.0 litre - 1998cc

Max Power
147kW@7400rpm

Max Torque
192Nm@6000rpm

Control System
Honda Programmed Fuel Injection & Ignition

Manual Transmission
6 Speed Close-Ratio with Multi-Cone Synchronisers on all Gears

Chassis - Type R

Body Type
Monocoque

Front Suspension
Strut

Rear Suspension
Double Wishbone

Stabilizer Bars
Front & Rear

Front Strut Tower Bar
Standard Equipment

Power Steering
Standard Equipment

Wheel Type
Alloy

Spare Wheel Type
Temporary

Front Brakes
Vented Disc

Rear Brakes
Disc



Exterior Features - Type R


Interior Features - Type R

Accessory Power Socket
Standard Equipment

Airconditioning
Optional

Ashtray
Optional

Central Locking
Standard Equipment

Cup Holders
X 4

Digital Clock
In Radio

Door Pockets
Driver & Passenger

Drivers Window
Auto Up/Down

Glovebox
Illuminated

Glovebox
Lockable

Head Restraints - Front
Fixed

Immobiliser System
Standard Equipment

Security Alarm
Standard Equipment

Keyless Entry
X 2 Transmitters

Interior Illumination
Cargo Area

Interior Illumination
Courtesy Light

Lights-On Warning
Audable

Low Fuel Warning
Light

Pedals & Footrest
Aluminium

Power Windows
Standard Equipment

Seats - Front
Recaro Sports Seats

Seats - Rear
50/50 Split Fold Down

Steering Column
Tilt Adjustable

Steering Wheel
Momo Leather Covered

Tachometer
Standard Equipment

Tripmeter
X 2

Vanity Mirror
Not Available

Windows
Heat Absorbing



Safety - Type R

Front SRS Airbag
Driver & Passenger

Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS)
Standard Equipment

Child Safety Seat Anchorages
X 2

Convex Door Mirror
Passenger Side

Fire Retardant Interior
Standard Equipment

Front Windscreen
Laminated

Fuel Tank Roll Over Valve
Standard Equipment

Hazard Warning Lights
Standard Equipment

High Mounted Stop Light
Standard Equipment

Instrument Panel
Padded

Progressive Crumple Zones
Front & Rear

Rear View Mirror
Day/Night Type

Screw Type Fuel Cap
Standard Equipment

Seatbelt Reminder
Driver

Seatbelts - 3 Point ELR
All Seating Positions

Seatbelt Pretensioners - Front
Driver & Passenger

Side Impact Protection
Standard Equipment

Steering Column
Energy Absorbing Type

Transmission Shiftlock
Not Available



Dimensions - Type R

Length
4400mm

Width
1725mm

Height
1400mm

Ground Clearance - Laden
112mm

Weight  Tare
Man
1160kg


Auto
Not Available

Turning Circle
11.6m

Fuel Economy (Litres/100km)



City
9.5


Highway
5.0

Fuel Tank Capacity
50 litres

Wheel Size
16 x 6 1/2 JJ

Tyre Size
205/55 R16 89V

Towing Capacity




Trailer With Brakes
Not Available

2kturkey

Iggy, I was told by the Honda DSM that there is substantially more torque with the new model which together with the 6 sped gearbox may go a fair way towards offsetting the additional weight. Do you have a torque comparison?

Iggy_Type_R

2kturkey, so it probably has a bit more torque... but what about the tuned suspension? The perfect balance of the car... I don;'t think you will get that in this one.

Current: Max Torque
Power 147 kW
192Nm
Weight to Power Ratio 7.96 : 1 kg/kW

"old":
Power 141 KW
Torque 178 Nm
Weight to Power Ratio 7.71 : 1 kg/kW

Takashi KazuMori

This looks quite true, though I'm waiting to see it with my own eyes next week. Won't speak further untill then. But the wheels are quite disappointing indeed.

Iggy_Type_R

What exactly looks "quite true"? Are you waiting to see the Type S with your own eyes? These are not pics off some site... these are photos I took on Sat morning.

tze

I HAVE NOW SEEN THE CAR

Takashi - Unfortunately (with great dismay) this is NOT an export TYpe R.

It is a rebadged type S, with the Type R kit, recaro seats and LSD. (at least they put that in - I THINK!!)

Now, I have only done a visual inspection and have not driven it, however these are my observations:

1) 8000 red line
2) Black rocker cover (sorry no type R has this)
3) No rear chasis brace (The real type r has one just before where the seats fold - if you lift up to see the spare)
4) RSX Brakes
5) RSX Wheels

Now, what totall shat me was the dealer insisted this was not an US type S, because, wait for it..... it is made in japan.

I told him that the RSX is made in japan and that only certain models are made in us (ie. civic coupe, us accord)

Anyway - I have mailed honda, and will endeavour to write a letter of complaint.

I cannot believe they have compromised on the "Type R" name - Yes it is a nice car, but I would have prefered a Type S to be released, with a true Type R to come out a bit later if need be.

I hope everyone will join me in sending mail to various car mags and papers - stating the facts and requesting a boycott of this product.

naishou

They've almost certainly done this for cost reasons. Our dollar is worth squat these days.

What I wonder is how much of the Type R spec suspension and body stiffening we get. Apparently not the rear brace, but what about spring and shock rates, and the extra welds (?) that the old Type R used to get.

Weight seems OK? It should go quite nicely, but maybe not as hard edged as the real Type R. Ever more reason to buy an S2000 Iggy.

tze

Actually, can someone confirm that our ITR even has an LSD??