lovegroova

I suspect he wasn't having fun with Hamilton as a playmate that he couldn't overtake on Sunday. Those laps stuck behind, followed by the earlier than planned pitstop cost him any chance of catching FA.

The original slow pitstop was what really cost him the race.

ytdlite

please clarify, "because the mafia based influence in the team".

A 2

Don't think there is much to it. Belonging to the team in question that may be how they internally talk about Ferrari their competitor, or thats what I think it is. Probably feeling a little embattled by recent anti Red Bull posts is what I think it is or maybe everyone in the paddock shares Nikki Lauda's views on 'pasta culture' at Ferrari

composite guru

Ok, I meant to say they are owned by the mafia. If the FIA don't do what they say then someone wakes up next to a horses head wearing a pair of concrete slippers. :0)

I know a few people that have contracted there and its said to be an awful place to work.

composite guru

I don't really know that but I know corrupt things go on there as F1 is their primary marketing tool for their cars so when they are sh*t they get worried.

espelirS2K

I feel like I should preface:

I'm a Vettel fan, I'm an RB fan.

BUT, everyone has been questioning how Vettel would handle himself in the pack--whether he's actually a great all around driver, or only seems to get his wins because he has the pace to stay out in front (i.e. he can't pass well). I think in this race, and Canada we can see that peoples thoughts may be ringing somewhat true.

When he's in the lead, he soars around the track. When he's not... he isn't quick. Webber was faster than him the entire time he was behind Vettel (enough for team orders to be called). I don't think Vettel does well under driver pressure. Sure, he does fine under mental pressure on Saturday's, but come Sunday, with the other great drivers in the field breathing down his gearbox, I think he cracks.

This is Vettel showing his inexperience in F1. He's got a ways to go. But he is NOT a Schumacher as of yet... He's cracking under pressure.

luder_5555

My thoughts on that are that he is always in front. My guess is that the car is setup to be in front. When you are behind another car you have so much less downforce. I would assume that either the car is not setup properly to be behind another car, of he is not used to it so he kills the tires sliding around when he get's stuck behind someone.

MaxGeek

To be fair to Vettel, Alonso was already long gone near the end of the race and Lewis with his fuel issues was 5 seconds behind and dropping. Vettel was likely in fuel/engine conservation mode. Webber passed Lewis with 6 laps to go and with team orders announced over the radio, its likely that Vettel thought he was safe. Webber though had other ideas.

Triple-H

I can indeed deny it!
It's been 2 races since the change in rules has been nulified and we are back to the rules we had at the start of the season, and Ferrari continue to advance. There was no fluke in Ferrari getting better, it was not a change in rules, it was just hard work and the ongoing efforts to develop the car. The increased pace of the Ferrari is because of hard work, not because of rule changes.