Ayeeeyorandy

If the valves really is the probably I will be looking into upgrading to Ap2 retainers. How was your first S after upgrading ?

Mugen_is_best

I've taken a fairly neutral stance on RSG and Ballade, but I'm gonna come out and say I wouldn't trust either of their work. After reading, hearing and experiencing both myself I will only be taking my car to Rob @ Chewerks and Randy @ Evasive. Both those guys and shops are dependable and trustworthy.

Ayeeeyorandy

Thanks for your in put. im starting to feel the same with both Rsg and Ballade. I gave Evasive a call but they're all book for the next for weeks. So I went ahead and made an appointment with Rob @ Chewerks for this Sunday.

jun11

It was tip top. I used it for track days and never had any issues. It even gave the local Porsche club a run for a handful of laps.

jyeung528

i've not heard of anyone replacing the rings, especially solely for the purpose of pre-emptive oil consumption control.

most owners just deal with topping off the oil. i believe the general consensus is that if you're going to replace the rings, you might as well drop in a used engine, like an ap2.

what is your current oil consumption rate?

ap1 usually burn oil and it gets progressively worse in a linear fashion. that being said, i'm at 210,000 miles and burning a lot of oil. so the engine will keep going.

eight

All of our motors burn oil. It's odd that he would be recommending the rings right off the bat. If you approved the head work and he removes the head then finds scarring on the cylinder walls then that makes sense. You should definitely not be replacing rings right off the bat. Nobody replaces piston rings as preventative maintanence.

As for the head work, I'd say get a 2nd opinion. This is all based around you remembering how long the car was sitting for before ballade started doing the valve adjustment. A few extra dollars towards diagnosis in other shops is going to save you a ton of money.

Ayeeeyorandy

ive had the car for about a year and half. I put on 20k miles. Bought the car at 37 miles and is exactly at 57k miles I have yet to notice any oil burning I keep up with my oil changes. Owner at Rsg said Im one of the Lucky ones if my rings are still good and haven't burned any oil.

Ayeeeyorandy

Replacing rings was to prevent the rings going out in the future and burning oil. As Rsg owner said I have an Ap1 and the ring will eventually go out and start burning oil. If I approve the head job that's what he recommended since the head will be off already and will have easier access to the rings instead of in the future if I replace the rings they will have to remove the head anyways to get to the rings. That's what was explained to me on why replacing the rings now if I do the head job.

That's why I felt I should I should get a second and the purpose of this thread to help me decide if I should. When they first did the compession and saw the low compession in cylinder 1 they already said I had rebuild the head as cylinder 1 is "dead" I had to ask for a leak down test so I know what was causing the loss compression. After all that thats when they told me the intake valve had a leak and that I should replace my rings while I'm at at for the estimate cost of 3k. So I just felt like it was a money grab to them since I'm not burning oil and the rings isn't the issues. But then again I'm not a mechanic head. That's why I'm here now lol.

jyeung528

holy fuqing shet, the owner wanted to replace your rings to prevent oil burning in the future and you don't currently have an oil burning issue?????????????

oh my fuqing GAWWWWWWDDDD WTFFFFFFFF

dre_dae

I recently had my head rebuilt at Evasive and if you're worried about pricing it was similar. It also included replacement of oil pump, water pump, timing chain, etc. PM me and I can give you more details. I also got this at 180k miles. Luckily the block was still good and didn't need to be touched.

I've always had my work done by them, and never had any issues. Hope this helps.