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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris S
and on the same second (I believe slightly faster) as a C6 Z06. This is looking like the new bang for the buck king on the track.

For real??? The Z06 is known as a track monster with the right driver. And it has about 60 hp on the Boss. And it should be quite a bit lighter. If it really is faster than a Z06, that is quite impressive to say the least!
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 11:34 AM
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pretty weak excuse. i'm certain you could do better than that.

fact is, an auto journalist's job is on the line no matter what they crash. whether it be a Mazda 3 or a Maserati.
Certainly. But wreck an Audi R8 and your magazine may never get to borrow one again (or anything else expensive and exclusive from Audi). Wreck a Mustang and you'll still probably get invited to Ford events. Wreck anything and it could mean your job, sure. It's just worse as the value and rarity of the vehicle rises. As I said, (sub)consciously, most normal, intelligent people will take more care with a vehicle in their care as the cost of said vehicle rises. How many of us would drive a McLaren F1 at 10/10ths compared to a Mazda MX-5? That's an extreme example but it makes my point: cheaper, more common cars are readily abused or driven hard as compared to expensive, rare cars.

Originally Posted by S2020
I believe that unless it's an super rare car like an Enzo or F40, they are insured against adverse events. They're a business and all business are required to have insurances up to their ears.
What I meant was, the more expensive the car, the less inclination there is to drive in a way that MIGHT cause a wreck. Insurance has nothing to do with it. Insurance covers the cost but it doesn't actually mean the vehicle can be replaced (for others to drive, to make up for a limited edition vehicle, etc, etc).

Originally Posted by JohnsS2000
I respectfully dis agree with this statement. While at Sebring International Raceway in Sebring FL I was able to run with an authentic Shelby Cobra 427Not a clone and verified by car tag under hood) as well as an Enzo Ferrari. I have to say the Enzo has a little bit more value than the Boss 302 or the R8 would.
I'm betting the owners were driving them, not some magazine journalist, and either way, I'm betting they were not being driven as close to the ragged edge as the guy down the paddock with a 1992 Honda Civic hatchback.
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 11:44 AM
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Is it the one with the Laguna Seca Package? If so, it's got R-Compounds. Hardly a fair fight.

It mentions Recaro seats and a rear seat delete in their test car, which are part of the Laguna Seca Package, so I'm willing to bet it was.

http://media.ford.com/article_displa...ticle_id=33065

On top of all this: "Ford brought 2010 Rolex 24hrs Daytona GT class winner Jonathan Bomarito."

Along with this, they're comparing times from different days (years, actually). Normally, 2 seconds on a track like Laguna Seca is a pretty good indicator of a faster car, but with the shady nature of the Motor Trend article (shocking I know) not specifying what trim they used and the hints at Ford being involved, this is suspect at best. At the very least, we know this car is in the same league as the M3 and R8, which is impressive in and of itself.
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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It wasn't the Laguna Seca version so it had standard Pirelli P-Zeros on it. Also, in the story, they said that with a grippy surface, the expect a 0-60 of 3.9s! Yowzers!

A ringer driver is one thing (lots of practice, I'm sure) but still, it's impressive! Four seats, $40K and times up there with some ultra-serious cars.
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 07:13 PM
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I wouldn't even think about that! Wouldn't you miss all your M3's luxuries? And i believe C/D said that the M3 was easier to drive fast than the Mustang
I doubt I'll do it, just giving a nod to the Boss as a great product worthy of my consideration. If I did it, the Boss would prob. replace the Miata as the track car, and we'd get my wife a comfy DD like an Outback or something.
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 08:55 PM
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Another vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRXSy...eature=related
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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy
It wasn't the Laguna Seca version so it had standard Pirelli P-Zeros on it. Also, in the story, they said that with a grippy surface, the expect a 0-60 of 3.9s! Yowzers!

A ringer driver is one thing (lots of practice, I'm sure) but still, it's impressive! Four seats, $40K and times up there with some ultra-serious cars.
Where'd you see that? On that second video posted, it's made clear that they're using Laguna Seca trim models. It looks like a press day of sort. The fact that Motor Trend mentions Ford brought their 24 Hours of Daytona GT Champ along suggests they hosted the event Motor Trend tested the car at. To me, it seems like one and the same.

"We proved the regular GT was just a tick off the pace of the M3 in our October 2010 cover story." - BS. They prove nothing. I much prefer Road and Track who fully disclose the models as tested, and a lot more of their methodology. For me, Axis of Oversteer is the holy grail. http://axisofoversteer.blogspot.com/...97-gt2-vs.html

Downloadable track data, full disclosure of how they performed the test, videos with telemetry, etc.

With Motor Trend, you get a vaguely worded paragraph that gives you a lap time and that's it.

Disclaimer: This does not in anyway detract from my feeling that the Boss 302 is awesome. I just wish Motor Trend would quit pretending their press days are "track tests."
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 02:46 AM
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I doubt I'll do it, just giving a nod to the Boss as a great product worthy of my consideration. If I did it, the Boss would prob. replace the Miata as the track car, and we'd get my wife a comfy DD like an Outback or something.
Your wife sounds like a gem. My ex-wife would kick me in the balls if I ever suggested that she should drive a subaru (and not a BMW) while I bought a new, top of the line mustang for a track toy. Go buy her some flowers today, she sounds awesome, does she have a sister?
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by fishfryer
Your wife sounds like a gem. My ex-wife would kick me in the balls if I ever suggested that she should drive a subaru (and not a BMW) while I bought a new, top of the line mustang for a track toy. Go buy her some flowers today, she sounds awesome, does she have a sister?
Yeah, she's really cool, totally OK w/ me having an NC, M3, and a Ridgeline (which is her usual DD after selling her Jetta TDI, ex. on weekends when I need it to transport my dirt bike), not to mention she doesn't complain about my motorcycling obsession. Oh yeah, her dad picks up the tab for me and my brothers @ the Indy 500 every year, everything but getting to Indy. Sorry, she doesn't have any sisters.
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 07:04 AM
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Every shot of the mustang shown in the first vid is a regular 302. (Not Laguna version) So it would seem that the time they are quoting would be for the base version. Alsowhile the second vid may have been an LS version, it was clearly not setting any spectacular lap times as it seemed to be more of a shake down session. The best lap time there was in the mid 1:50's, and the driver was clearly not pushing the braking zones, or carrying as much mid corner speed as possible. though it was interesting to see sustained G's over 1.0-1.1 through some of te corners.
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