The '06 S2000 is rated at 237hp and if Mazda doesn't rerate their Renesis rotary to the new SAE hp standard, it's going to stay at 238hp.

I wonder what the rotary would rate under the new scale, probably 138hp or something.

As much as I love my '05 S2000, I do wish it had about 20-30 more horsepower and more low-end torque. When a new 280hp Toyota AVALON!!! of all things can keep up with our S2000's in a drag race, it's time for a hp boost.

i imagine the renisis would be about 220HP if it were rerated.

Never came across a Toyota Avalon. Can they really keep up with our s2k? It seems like such a big and heavy sedan.

The new Avalon packs 280hp out of their V6 and overall are pretty quick going straight now. Wait till Lexus/Toyota redesigns their whole lineup with the new v6 theyre coming out with.

The Avalon has been tested at 5.9sec and around 98-99mph in the 1/4 mile.

Can't wait to see what the similar weight IS350 can do with another 26hp and a bigger contact and more favorable weight transfer.

Just looked the avalon has been re-rated at 268hp and 248-TQ. So if the IS350 stays with 306hp it's up 38hp or more than 12% than the avalon.

Well, with 280 hp the car simply needs to be under 3300 lbs to have the same power-to-weight ratio as the S2000.

The Avalon XL comes in at 3490 lbs, actually - so in theory it should be a tad slower than the S2000... As if the S2000 had only 227 hp - so about as fast as an RX-8.

Well, at least now instead of F20C vs. F22C arguments we (AP1 owners and '04-05 AP2 owners) can band together as a cohesive unit and flame the hell out of the '06+ owners for their wimpy ass 237HP models, logic be damned!

I test drove an Avalon two months ago. It handled like an Old Person's Mercury.

Where are the new hp's no.'s being posted?

Toyota has them on their web site. They had the LS430 at least a month ago. They didn't shout it, but simply one day the numbers were corrected with no explanation.

The Sienna still has 230hp so maybe they only re-tested some models.

the matrix (hi-po) has 168hp (not sure if that was ever rated higher)