Originally Posted by 2007 Zx-10,Aug 3 2009, 09:27 AM
Wonderful vid....think I had a bit of a chill up my spine watching it because I really connect with Jeremy's love of freedom and how it's under assault in this new world order.
Just a matter of time before "666" is here imo. |
Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.,Aug 3 2009, 09:43 AM
Let me guess, it's those pesky democrats isn't it?
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I have to disagree. Supercars always have taken a very minute share of the car market. They have a REALLY small effect on the environment and rich people always exist somewhere in the world to import them (i.e. Saudi Arabia and China's economies are both really good during this world recession).
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LOL. OK. It's all a big conspiracy because they are in cahoots with all of the world's corporations, all of which happen to be ran by hard line conservatives.
Come on. This is all speculation and paranoia that has business being brought into a grown up conversation. It's OK for you to disagree with what a political party thinks is the best way to do things, but get real. |
They have a REALLY small effect on the environment |
Originally Posted by cbehney,Aug 3 2009, 09:38 AM
You don't actually equate a market-driven *possible* reduction in gas engine exotic cars with the coming of the beast, do you??? Maybe you say it's a symptom, not the core, but geez... Back on topic, Clarkson is being a bit dramatic (that's a first), in my view. |
Originally Posted by 2007 Zx-10,Aug 3 2009, 09:57 AM
Missing the point. The point is that gov't restrictions may eventually eliminate cars like this.
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lol. didn't you see the other thread about the special allowances that they are giving to smaller manufacturers. That's un-American as well, apparently.
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Meh. :rolleyes: More vapid eye-candy. Don't get me wrong, I love watching the show, it's great eye-candy, but its information content is, as usual, close to nil.
Regardless of the mass market, with its demand for cars under $30k, automatics, cup-holders, five person seating capacity, 30+ mpg, etc., there will always be a market for $200k+, 500 hp, etc. supercars. Maybe not quite as large a market these days as back in 2007 or 1999 when people had lots of paper wealth but no "real" wealth, but a market nonetheless. Even if every las drop of oil is used up next year, with biofuels there will, again, always be a market for such cars for people wealthy to afford them. Just because the Prius is popular doesn't make a V12 Vantage unpopular with its target audience. The only way such a car can go away is if there is a global move to outlaw them. There will always be thrill seekers and adrenaline junkies in the human race. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.s2k...7469a9b8a9.jpg ^^ Yeah, the 458 sure signals the death of the supercar. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Lice Locket,Aug 3 2009, 01:03 PM
There are already government restrictions... for large car companies. Companies like Lotus and Ferrari (and brands of kit cars like Atom as well) are exempt from a lot of safety and smog laws in the US.
The they are not exempt from smog/emission laws in any way, either. (Although they are small enough to be exempt from CAFE requirements, IIRC.) Similarly, I am not away of any safety/smog laws that Ferrari is exempt from. (Kit cars do indeed operate under very different rules, though.) |
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