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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 01:02 PM
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Are they just being cautious?
http://www.kitv.com/automotive/25460812/detail.html
Toyota is recalling 1.53 million Lexus, Avalon and other models, mostly in the U.S. and Japan, for brake fluid and fuel pump problems, the latest in a string of quality lapses for the world's No. 1 automaker.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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Manufacturer's go through recals all the time, Toyota is just on the media hot seat and if they so much as sneeze it gets reported.

They're being proactive here on this recall. My $.02

I'd still recommend a Toyota to a friend.
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by berlinablackie,Oct 21 2010, 09:27 PM
I'd still recommend a Toyota to a friend.
but would you purchase one?
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by berlinablackie,Oct 21 2010, 01:27 PM
Manufacturer's go through recals all the time, Toyota is just on the media hot seat and if they so much as sneeze it gets reported.
I agree.
GM recalled newer Impalas for their seat belt.

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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by madkimchi,Oct 21 2010, 01:35 PM
but would you purchase one?
Yes, and have; just as millions of people around the world each year.

The world's No. 1 carmaker said there were no accidents or injuries connected to the latest recall, which covers some Lexus and Toyota models from the 2004 to 2006 model years, mostly in the U.S. and Japan.
This is a proactive recall. See a potential problem? Recall it before it gets out of hand.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 04:48 AM
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Toyota is recalling pretty much everything its made over the past 15 years now. My take is it is fixing everything it has records of so it can try and salvage its reputation and go back to not having any recalls in a year or two.

I think it shows two things. One, Toyota is serious about quality in its products again, and two, it shoved a lot of problems under the carpet over the past 20 years - more than anyone publicly knew about.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Steponme,Oct 22 2010, 01:51 AM
Yes, and have; just as millions of people around the world each year.
i would too but nothing in their line up interests me other than LF-A. which i can't afford.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Oct 22 2010, 04:48 AM
salvage its reputation
One can pretty much say its reputation is back to normal, judging by its sales and profits over the last couple quarters.

More on the recall: http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2010...o-big-deal.aspx

I think it's quite easy to overestimate -- in fact, I think the whole thing is no big deal. One could even argue that it reflects well on Toyota.

In fact, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration head David Strickland actually praised the company in a Detroit News interview, saying, "Toyota really is taking safety much more seriously than they did before I took office [in January]" and that it is "working very hard to be a better company going forward."

And of course even this giant-sounding Toyota recall pales in comparison with massive headache-inducers like Ford's (NYSE: F) ongoing efforts to fix 17.5 million cars with faulty cruise-control switches
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Oct 22 2010, 04:48 AM
Toyota is recalling pretty much everything its made over the past 15 years now. My take is it is fixing everything it has records of so it can try and salvage its reputation and go back to not having any recalls in a year or two.

I think it shows two things. One, Toyota is serious about quality in its products again, and two, it shoved a lot of problems under the carpet over the past 20 years - more than anyone publicly knew about.
I would agree with this. Marketing and the press generated an unrealistic picture of "Toyota reliability." Having owned a Toyota and observing my friends who have, they have never been deserving of their popular reputation. Not pure crap, but hardly infallible.

Playing into the issue was "the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence" fallacy. A prejudice against US makes was and is very common, despite the fact that the sales numbers of the US makers is as much proof of their superiority as the sales numbers of Honda and Toyota. Simply being foreign-made influences people to give companies a free pass.
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NuncoStr8,Oct 23 2010, 03:18 PM
I would agree with this. Marketing and the press generated an unrealistic picture of "Toyota reliability." Having owned a Toyota and observing my friends who have, they have never been deserving of their popular reputation. Not pure crap, but hardly infallible.

Playing into the issue was "the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence" fallacy. A prejudice against US makes was and is very common, despite the fact that the sales numbers of the US makers is as much proof of their superiority as the sales numbers of Honda and Toyota. Simply being foreign-made influences people to give companies a free pass.
My Toyotas have been infallible, as so have millions of others' worldwide. Reputations and stereotypes have to start somewhere. The U.S. automakers' reputations started from decades of making unreliable vehicles (though recently improved), which usually ranked at the bottom or near bottom (along with many European brands, e.g. MB, Audi, Jaguar, etc.) of all reliability tests conducted by AMERICAN (not foreign) companies. Though during the past few years, they've improved drastically. Look back to the reliability tests of the '90s and see for yourselves.

Then again, maybe you think it's some kind of a conspiracy between the U.S. companies.
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