2016, er, 2017 Acura NSX aimed at Ferrari 458 for the price of Audi R8
#101
Originally Posted by InTheZone' timestamp='1416446690' post='23411599
so they want to mimic the price and looks of the R8 and give 458 performance?
they had a hard enough time selling an nsx for half that price and now they're asking another $30-40k on top?
they had a hard enough time selling an nsx for half that price and now they're asking another $30-40k on top?
This car is getting old already and has a V6 - lame. Honda at their best.
#102
Originally Posted by JonBoy' timestamp='1416497460' post='23412080
[quote name='InTheZone' timestamp='1416446690' post='23411599']
so they want to mimic the price and looks of the R8 and give 458 performance?
they had a hard enough time selling an nsx for half that price and now they're asking another $30-40k on top?
so they want to mimic the price and looks of the R8 and give 458 performance?
they had a hard enough time selling an nsx for half that price and now they're asking another $30-40k on top?
This car is getting old already and has a V6 - lame. Honda at their best.
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Except it'd be a P1 at 13.6% of the cost, or a LaFerrari for about the same.
You're right, though - stupid car, going with a 6-cylinder engine. The M3, 911 (S, GT3, Turbo), Jag F-Type, Boxster, Cayman, GT-R, Cadillac ATS-V - they're all also lame cars that have no place in the world of sports cars because they have 6-cylinder engines. Let's not forget the Lotus Evora or the Exige S, either - those cars are junk and shouldn't be discussed or driven by any true sporting enthusiast. Heck, that Audi R18 is a piece of crap as well - dumb idea for a racecar!
You crack me up, man!
#103
Yep, I was thinking along the lines of a rear mid engine 4.0 liter V8 revving to 10,000 RPM and cranking out 600+ hp. That seems more in tune with the spirit of the NSX and the S2000, just on crack.
#104
You're looking at the technological answer the NSX had for the competition back in the late 80s and early 90s. The NSX is about new technology and applications for TODAY, which means that the specific answer for the original NSX is not necessarily what you'd do today.
I would prefer a car that's mechanically simpler and lighter but that has already been done. Time for something new for Acura!
I would prefer a car that's mechanically simpler and lighter but that has already been done. Time for something new for Acura!
#105
True I'm all up for integrating the latest advances into today's supercar, but the 458 and LFA are pretty modern and have N/A engines that rev sky high. They have outdone Honda at their best game. There's something to be said about the immediacy of high-revving screaming engines and tossable razor-sharp cornering and the lightweight feel in handling.
#106
Registered User
Early 90s 911s and 348s were "pretty modern" back when the NSX came out - but the NSX showed the future of performance tech in an all-around competent package.
The original NSX a is no longer an example of future performance tech, however.
They have outdone Honda at their best game.
There's something to be said about the immediacy of high-revving screaming engines and tossable razor-sharp cornering and the lightweight feel in handling.
#107
True I'm all up for integrating the latest advances into today's supercar, but the 458 and LFA are pretty modern and have N/A engines that rev sky high. They have outdone Honda at their best game. There's something to be said about the immediacy of high-revving screaming engines and tossable razor-sharp cornering and the lightweight feel in handling.
#108
Registered User
If Honda makes another slow N/A car that sounds great at high rpm, everyone is going to brand this car a failure. Yes, the 458 Italia is amazing, but for many reasons, Honda cannot compete with Ferrari on producing a 458-like engine.
It probably won't sound *quite* as good, but I'm more than happy with giving up a little aural pleasure for a pair of turbochargers and some serious power/speed.
It probably won't sound *quite* as good, but I'm more than happy with giving up a little aural pleasure for a pair of turbochargers and some serious power/speed.
#109
It is good to see that you guys are so optimistic. I wish I shared such sentiment, but Honda has just plain failed to deliver for some time.
#110
There's "pretty modern," then there's "future performance tech" or however you'd like to term it.
Early 90s 911s and 348s were "pretty modern" back when the NSX came out - but the NSX showed the future of performance tech in an all-around competent package.
The original NSX a is no longer an example of future performance tech, however.
Early 90s 911s and 348s were "pretty modern" back when the NSX came out - but the NSX showed the future of performance tech in an all-around competent package.
The original NSX a is no longer an example of future performance tech, however.